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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJacket View Post
    Well winning 7 games a year when you play two division II schools does not get it done. Now, having been part of a team that won 7 games a year against the best of the SEC and top tier out of conference schools with a 10 game schedule certainly gives me a perspective and history that you clearly do not have. Oh, I forgot about my last game in which we beat a top team ranked team which had the Heisman Trophy winner playing for them. From my perspective on Georgia Tech Football history, I am very pleased with Coach Collins and the changes he is making in the program.

    I think Collins has the ability to restore Georgia Tech Football to the top tier level.
    You are justifiably proud of the accomplishments of Tech in the old, tougher SEC. And not a hint of pulling scholarships, although all our competition did it. That was a different world and we shan't see the likes of it again, nor should we want to. But I agree with you, I think we have a bright future with Todd Stansbury and Geoff Collins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJacket View Post
    Well winning 7 games a year when you play two division II schools does not get it done. Now, having been part of a team that won 7 games a year against the best of the SEC and top tier out of conference schools with a 10 game schedule certainly gives me a perspective and history that you clearly do not have. Oh, I forgot about my last game in which we beat a top team ranked team which had the Heisman Trophy winner playing for them. From my perspective on Georgia Tech Football history, I am very pleased with Coach Collins and the changes he is making in the program.

    I think Collins has the ability to restore Georgia Tech Football to the top tier level.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonwreck View Post
    You are justifiably proud of the accomplishments of Tech in the old, tougher SEC. And not a hint of pulling scholarships, although all our competition did it. That was a different world and we shan't see the likes of it again, nor should we want to. But I agree with you, I think we have a bright future with Todd Stansbury and Geoff Collins.
    And 7 wins in NY era meant a struggle for a bowl...agree looking for great things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    “I have most definitely noticed a new buzz around Georgia Tech. Players like me were never interested before, but now, we love it there.” — Wiggles (And he's announcing at 2 pm today.)


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    Combat, are you ready to admit that while academics are still a challenge at GT, a topnotch recruiter like Collins can potentially go out and recruit significantly better than Paul Johnson? I don't want to belabor this, but when Johnson didn't recruit well, the excuse was always the GT academics. The reason was never that Paul wasn't a very good recruiter.

    It's still early in Collins' tenure. But are your recruiting expectations for him and his staff significantly higher than Johnson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    Combat, are you ready to admit that while academics are still a challenge at GT, a topnotch recruiter like Collins can potentially go out and recruit significantly better than Paul Johnson? I don't want to belabor this, but when Johnson didn't recruit well, the excuse was always the GT academics. The reason was never that Paul wasn't a very good recruiter.

    It's still early in Collins' tenure. But are your recruiting expectations for him and his staff significantly higher than Johnson?
    Academics will always be a part of the recruiting challenge as compared to UGA, AL., Clemson, etc. I don't recollect saying it was the end all, be all. I was far more into a lack of money being a primary factor in our recruiting. Would CPJ have used the money as wisely if he got the budget Collins did? I don't think so but I do believe the recruiting would have improved.

    With Collins marketing abilities, the staff he hired and the significantly increased budget I do expect more from Collins, et al. How that translates to further success will depend upon his and his staff's coaching abilities.



    And yes, my expectations for Collins is higher than CPJ's.
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    It's early but yeah like Collins progress....he is getting folks riled up and we will see a better product soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    Combat, are you ready to admit that while academics are still a challenge at GT, a topnotch recruiter like Collins can potentially go out and recruit significantly better than Paul Johnson? I don't want to belabor this, but when Johnson didn't recruit well, the excuse was always the GT academics. The reason was never that Paul wasn't a very good recruiter.

    It's still early in Collins' tenure. But are your recruiting expectations for him and his staff significantly higher than Johnson?
    Jim,

    Academics are an issue. We have a smaller pool of recruits but really good players who can handle the school are available. PJ's offense made it even more difficult to recruit. With Collins running a pro style system and using NFL experienced position coaches with many of them former GT players, he should do much better than PJ.

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    NY is spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    Combat, are you ready to admit that while academics are still a challenge at GT, a topnotch recruiter like Collins can potentially go out and recruit significantly better than Paul Johnson? I don't want to belabor this, but when Johnson didn't recruit well, the excuse was always the GT academics. The reason was never that Paul wasn't a very good recruiter.

    It's still early in Collins' tenure. But are your recruiting expectations for him and his staff significantly higher than Johnson?
    JIm,
    It remains to be seen whether all these new guys are going to be able to hack in the classroom -even though they were admitted.Johnson had a good academic record--although he had lots of players leave the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alagold View Post
    JIm,
    It remains to be seen whether all these new guys are going to be able to hack in the classroom -even though they were admitted.Johnson had a good academic record--although he had lots of players leave the program.
    We "Tech men", myself included, tend to be very arrogant about the academics. But most students, football players and all the others, leave school for reasons other than failure in the classroom. By and large, the football players aren't taking Civil Engineering or ME, or Aerospace dynamic vibrations stuff. Most of our roster will be able to do the work in the classroom. Hell, lately we have lost players that are graduating in less than four years. Yours truly took 14 quarters--and I wasn't a Co-op ! I am not worried much about the scholastic issue, especially knowing the help and mentoring that is available to the players. Plus, part of the kid's decision has become getting the degree while playing football. They are motivated for both goals. And the staff will keep them focused.

 

 
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