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    S G A, your comment heading is "Collins Pushing Guys Out?" Even Bobby Dodd allowed other coaches to approach kids that may not play because of the talent at his position. I know because I was one of them. I was ready to leave but I wanted to go through Spring Training to see if I could break into the traveling squad. I played a lot of football at Tech for the next 3 years.

    The coach left the decision up to me. I stayed and earned my spot on the field.

    Collins is just being honest with his players. Some of these guys may want to stay and earn the valuable GT degree. Others may want to move on and play somewhere else. And some may want to prove themselves on the field.

    If you had evidence that Collins was "running guy off", if would be news.

    Have a nice day.


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    Is there any “evidence” of Saban running guys off or processing players like has been discussed on this board in the past? Yet all of you agree that it is true.

    You guys keep saying “being honest with a kid is not running them off.” That’s not what is going on here. You can be naive and act like Collins isn’t doing this after weeks and months of talking about “roster management” and running his organization like Alabama.

    Look, I am a GT fa, not alum. I care about the athletic department. Couldn’t give two craps about your degree or bringing in guys with questionable grades/academic situations. I want to win. So if Collins pushes a few guys out to strengthen his 2020 class, by all means.

    My question is, whether you believe he’s doing this or not, would you be ok with that practice? Processing players, forcing them out, giving them BS medical scholarships in the name of wins. Saban type ****. Are you guys ok with that?

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    Nope, I don't think for a minute that Collins is "forcing guys out".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJacket View Post
    Nope, I don't think for a minute that Collins is "forcing guys out".
    Some of you guys legitimately can’t read. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonwreck View Post
    Being honest with a kid, i.e., telling him he is not going to play is a far cry from yanking his scholarship, If a kid wants to continue on scholarship, practice, keep his grades up, but not play, that is his decision. Some guys do it. Most want to play football. Jaylen Johnson is the player specifically in question. The twitter poster has some personal connection to him, and evidently an axe to grind. Many friends and relatives get the big cry when their loved one has their dreams crushed, but it doesn't translate to having the scholarship taken away. There is not one mention--other than your troll-- that scholarships are being canceled. You seemed overjoyed that an anonymous poster on another platform has made an emotional, unsubstantiated accusation. WTF? Do you not understand that it is beneficial to Tech to lose some of our present players in order to recruit and re-tool our roster? What don't you get? Usually there is a dozen transfers when you change coaches. It doesn't at all mean we are running off players. I think you are well aware of the situation and you're such an attention whore that you have to post your "what if" stuff.
    It's the same crap from, happily, a very-dwindling number of PJ Fanboys who just can't let go of the past and who have to throw shade at Coach Collins because he's no longer running that stupid Triple Option offense. These are mostly Southern fans (service academy fans are smarter and classier) who just can't quite get over the fact that PJ quit on 'em.

    These "fans" didn't make a peep when PJ was doing this the past 11 years. Neither did I, because it was the right thing for PJ to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamblinWreck92 View Post
    We had plenty of kids bail under PJ for various reasons - I don't see what the BFD here is. No one is forcing the kid to bail on his degree. This sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. I don't remember any PJ fans getting upset when Vad Lee wisely left town for greener pastures nor any of the numerous other players PJ and his system ran out of town.

    Much ado about nothing and just more PJ fans throwing shade at Collins.
    As I've said before--for WHATEVER reason PJ had over 30% average attrition before graduation in all class from '12 -'16. It happens --sometimes not to Tech's benefit either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alagold View Post
    As I've said before--for WHATEVER reason PJ had over 30% average attrition before graduation in all class from '12 -'16. It happens --sometimes not to Tech's benefit either.
    But I submit that this current exodus will accrue to Tech's benefit. Flush the roster of triple option athletes. If the coaching staff is just equal to the Paul Johnson era, but they are coaching superior players, we should be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonwreck View Post
    But I submit that this current exodus will accrue to Tech's benefit. Flush the roster of triple option athletes. If the coaching staff is just equal to the Paul Johnson era, but they are coaching superior players, we should be improved.
    I agree that we need some of these guys who aren’t going to see the field to leave but these “triple option athletes” thing is stupid. You think we’re going to be better without Benson and Parker Braun?

    But the 7th and 8th WR/DB/RB, we definitely need to come off the books. We really need a top 25 recruiting class. Not just for talent purposes but also for attention and truly showing that things have changed. Then get into top 15 in 2021. But we’re not going to come close to top 25 signing 18-20 guys, which is what we’re looking at with normal attrition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sga_jacket View Post
    You think we’re going to be better without Benson and Parker Braun?
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    In the old scheme, no. In the new scheme, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combat Engineer View Post
    In the old scheme, no. In the new scheme, yes.
    You might be right about Benson, we’ll see but we are most definitely not better without Parker Braun. I don’t care what scheme we run.

 

 
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