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    Could 2018 be like 2007?

    Remember after the 2006 season and it's disappointing ending, Gailey pursued the Dolphins job only to get beat out by Cam Cameron. It seemed to be a turning point with people souring on Gailey leading up to the booing at the Gailey's PSA. Now, we have Johnson getting his agent to text his interest in the Tenn job. For the first time, I've seen open griping about PJ on message boards outside of this one. The schedule is favorable in 2018 for PJ but there aren't many sure wins in the conference. A 5-7 or even 6-6 season with another blowout loss to UGA could lead to an alumni uprising like it did 11 years ago.


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    I think your predictions of 5-7 / 6-6 are spot-on but I doubt the alumni will rise up because "2014!!!" with far too many of 'em and "It Is What It Is" with all the pro-CPJ fans. I've said it before and will again: Getting large #s of GT football fans to Eembrace this mediocrity is Johnson's greatest accomplishment here. He's got these fans accepting 3-win seasons, losing badly to Duke (incl. 3 of the last 4 games), no longer even going to bowls (he started out just losing 'em), etc. And all his fans just shrug their shoulders, get behind him, and say "IIWII".

    As a result of this accomplishment, he's gotten paid 8 more digits than most coaches would have with such a record. I'm including his recent thru-2021 contract extension in that total. Most HCs coming off of 2 of 3 losing seaons and 2 of 3 non-bowls would be on the hot seat.

    CPJ gets an extension instead. Large #s of fans then rally behind him, squawking 'IIWII!!' and getting excited about an FCS def. coordinator, after 3 failed DCs before him with bigger credentials. I hope Woody is The Man but reality makes it impossible to be terribly optimistic.

    It's an amazing feat of group-think conversion or psych-ops or something. I don't know but I don't think many other fan bases would be as blase about such crappy football as most of ours is.
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    Fan base seems to like 7-6 etc since he just got a extension on a contract with two out of last three yr.........losing..........If you give a guy extension for this and deafening silence is all you hear then that seems to be the attitude of the fan base...many are just happy with 7-5 nothing bowl loss to ga and excuses about how hard it is to recruit.........yet we will be better next yr...........what is funny is PJ to Tenn ! doubt the vol would put up with dive dive and dive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamblinWreck92 View Post
    I think your predictions of 5-7 / 6-6 are spot-on but I doubt the alumni will rise up because "2014!!!" with far too many of 'em and "It Is What It Is" with all the pro-CPJ fans. I've said it before and will again: Getting large #s of GT football fans to Eembrace this mediocrity is Johnson's greatest accomplishment here. He's got these fans accepting 3-win seasons, losing badly to Duke (incl. 3 of the last 4 games), no longer even going to bowls (he started out just losing 'em), etc. And all his fans just shrug their shoulders, get behind him, and say "IIWII".

    As a result of this accomplishment, he's gotten paid 8 more digits than most coaches would have with such a record. I'm including his recent thru-2021 contract extension in that total. Most HCs coming off of 2 of 3 losing seaons and 2 of 3 non-bowls would be on the hot seat.

    CPJ gets an extension instead. Large #s of fans then rally behind him, squawking 'IIWII!!' and getting excited about an FCS def. coordinator, after 3 failed DCs before him with bigger credentials. I hope Woody is The Man but reality makes it impossible to be terribly optimistic.

    It's an amazing feat of group-think conversion or psych-ops or something. I don't know but I don't think many other fan bases would be as blase about such crappy football as most of ours is.
    I can tell you from expierence you can x and o all you want on the chalf board and hitting your own folks but on Saturday its different.........Look at Wommack and Ted.......when you give them athletes they look good.....my frear is Woody,who I like by the way, may have had better players on defense at APPY than we have at Tech...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3518techie View Post
    Remember after the 2006 season and it's disappointing ending, Gailey pursued the Dolphins job only to get beat out by Cam Cameron. It seemed to be a turning point with people souring on Gailey leading up to the booing at the Gailey's PSA. Now, we have Johnson getting his agent to text his interest in the Tenn job. For the first time, I've seen open griping about PJ on message boards outside of this one. The schedule is favorable in 2018 for PJ but there aren't many sure wins in the conference. A 5-7 or even 6-6 season with another blowout loss to UGA could lead to an alumni uprising like it did 11 years ago.
    You may be right.It will interesting.We may have got in the same situation as basketball.Having to pay for a fired coach and can't get another good one with no money.

    PJ looks like he has put his $ ON TAQUON as QB by making him Captain. Taking that chance and by trying a new DEF with a bunch of undergrads, is a real risk.With a weaker schedule he will probably sneak by with 6-6.So he is "improving".Of course the recruiting goes to crap because he is looking at other jobs.Going nowhere now nor in future. hmmmmm

    otoh--if the new OL transfer shores up the OL so we just have to run the ball (and CAN). AND ,the new DEF becomes a real positive factor--he might get to 8-4 . Not likely, but we've been surprised before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alagold View Post
    PJ looks like he has put his $ ON TAQUON as QB by making him Captain.
    Nobody "makes" someone a Captain of the football team at Georgia Tech EXCEPT that player's peers. It's a vote by the players, always has been & always will be. That's what makes it special, not someone ranting on an internet bulletin board, nor the HC.
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    The extension is a joke. Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech are a bad marriage. But instead of ending in divorce, the wife got pregnant again. So now they must stay together.

    The most excitement that Bobby Dodd Stadium had in a long time was when the Atlanta United played there. Paul Johnson has made GT football irrelevant. Peter Noone concerts are more exciting.

    5-7/6-6 with a 7-5 tops is what GT is looking at this season. Beating Georgia is no longer a possibility with Kirby Smart there.

    The fight song and the "Tell Hell with Georgia" ring hollow now. If I was a grad I'd be embarrassed singing the words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepSnap View Post
    Nobody "makes" someone a Captain of the football team at Georgia Tech EXCEPT that player's peers. It's a vote by the players, always has been & always will be. That's what makes it special, not someone ranting on an internet bulletin board, nor the HC.
    agreed.......guess somewhere in PJ mind maybe more pressure will makehim a better player...but team votes on this not coaches but do remember when we were offered a Peach Bowl and ...........players didnt want to go yet..........we went..Used to talk to Gary Faulkner RIP bout this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alagold View Post
    You may be right.It will interesting.We may have got in the same situation as basketball.Having to pay for a fired coach and can't get another good one with no money.

    PJ looks like he has put his $ ON TAQUON as QB by making him Captain. Taking that chance and by trying a new DEF with a bunch of undergrads, is a real risk.With a weaker schedule he will probably sneak by with 6-6.So he is "improving".Of course the recruiting goes to crap because he is looking at other jobs.Going nowhere now nor in future. hmmmmm

    otoh--if the new OL transfer shores up the OL so we just have to run the ball (and CAN). AND ,the new DEF becomes a real positive factor--he might get to 8-4 . Not likely, but we've been surprised before.
    The problem is that Taquon is no Justin Thomas. JT made clutch 4th and long passes against VT and Boston College. Taquon takes one look downfield and if the receiver isn't wide open, he looks to run. On the option, he tries to make too many plays himself and misses big plays to the A-Back. Teams know the drill now. Don't concede the big play. Get Tech in 3rd and long and Tech will pretty much have to punt on 4th down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    The extension is a joke. Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech are a bad marriage. But instead of ending in divorce, the wife got pregnant again. So now they must stay together.

    The most excitement that Bobby Dodd Stadium had in a long time was when the Atlanta United played there. Paul Johnson has made GT football irrelevant. Peter Noone concerts are more exciting.

    5-7/6-6 with a 7-5 tops is what GT is looking at this season. Beating Georgia is no longer a possibility with Kirby Smart there.

    The fight song and the "Tell Hell with Georgia" ring hollow now. If I was a grad I'd be embarrassed singing the words.
    The bad part is that Stansbury could have withdrawn the contract extension after the report about PJ's agent texting the UT athletic director. Recruiting will be hurt a lot more with the news about the text than a contract extension. A coach can have a 10 year deal but recruits know he could be fired after a couple bad seasons. A coach having his agent text interest to another school is a red flag for recruits.

 

 
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