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This is a discussion on Good times are ahead within the Georgia Tech Football forums, part of the Georgia Tech Sports Message Boards category; I know there is a lot of negativity on this board but I wanted to lighten the mood a bit ...

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    Good times are ahead

    I know there is a lot of negativity on this board but I wanted to lighten the mood a bit and give you guys a little pick me up. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Good times are ahead. And I don't mean in 4 or 5 years. I mean as soon as 2016. If they are not with Paul Johnson, they should be soon after with the new coach. Now, this is all based on what the smart guys on this board have told me (Jim, Yukon, Ramblinwreck92, and mack). My theory is based on the following assumptions:

    1. Paul Johnson gets fired this season
    2. Paul Johnson is as good at recruiting as a nun at an erectile dysfunction convention
    3. Paul Johnson is maybe the 13th, but probably the 14th best coach in the ACC
    4. Chan Gailey is an absolute buffoon
    5. Our offense is an absolute joke that ZERO good players with NFL aspirations want to play in
    6. Our defense sucks because of the offense
    7. Paul Johnson does not teach tackling
    8. Paul Johnson does not teach blocking
    9. No players will leave because of the coaching/system change
    10. The next coach runs a spread system, similar to Auburn

    This is all based on if #1 happens. Number 2, 4, 5, and 6 are all related. Assuming Paul Johnson is as good at recruiting as a nun at an erectile dysfunction convention and no good players want to play in the offense and no defensive players want to come because of the offense, and assuming Chan Gailey was an absolute buffoon, a new coach with a new system will automatically cause a HUGE spike in recruiting. Since Gailey took over, our average finish in the recruiting rankings has been #53, according to Rivals. Surprisingly, outside of the 2007 class, Gailey never had a class that finished in the top 50. Crazy. Assuming 2, 4, 5 and 6 are correct, that should bring our average recruiting rankings up to the top 30, easy. Top 30-35 classes will probably net at least 1 more win per year. Right now, we're at 7 per year.

    Then assuming #3, #7 and #8 is correct, if we get a coach that is at least in the middle of the pack in terms of the ACC coaching rankings that actually teaches blocking and tackling and isn't a lazy @$$ millionaire, that will net, at least, another 1 win per year. By my count, we're at 9 wins per year. What if we hit the jackpot? We're able to hire a guy that turns out to be one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in the conference? That's another win. We're at 10 now.

    Which brings me to number 9 and 10. This should get helluva fired up. Here is why we should not take a step back with a coaching change. I've heard about how very few of our guys on offense could play in another system. Laskey, Days, Zenon, Perkins, Hill. Good news....they are all seniors! CJ Leggett will be a redshirt freshman. He is a true tailback. He played in a spread system in HS. One year of option football won't be a problem. He'll slide into a tailback in the spread with ease. He has a lot of potential. Not to mention, Mikell Lands-Davis is a potential star in a spread option, Auburn type offense. Throw in Broderick Snoddy next year as a third string RB, and you have enough talent to make something happen as early as next year. Move Dennis Andrews to WR, as he had several offers including Arkansas, Cincinnati, Ole Miss and Vandy to play WR. You could also use him sort of like Auburn uses Corey Grant. Speed guy. Offensive line is good enough with Burden, Griffin and Devine. Wide receiver, you have Michael Summers, Andrews, and Philpott. Those guys should be able to be productive until the new coach brings his own guys in. Philpott will be a stud regardless.

    You may be asking, what about the quarterback position? Well, how will a triple option quarterback be able to transition into a shotgun spread option attack? Kevin Ellison from Georgia Southern gave me some hope. He looked good against NC State in his first game of a new offense. In reality, the principles of the offense shouldn't be much different. Look at what Nick Marshall does. Not much different from what our QB's do except he's in the shotgun. Justin Thomas played in a similar offense in high school and can do well enough to win games for two years against our schedule until the new coach recruits his guy.

    Expectations? Year one could be tough. But with an FCS game and a home game against Tulane, we should be able to start 2-0. At Notre Dame in week 3 should be a loss. At UGA, at Clemson and at Miami are likely losses but you never know. Paul Johnson did beat all of those teams in year one. FSU at home should be a loss but again, Paul Johnson was able to beat Christian Ponder and Winston should likely be in the NFL. You never know. VT is at home and according to the smart posters here, they are on a downward spiral and should be an easy W in the future. I expect the next coach to continue the domination of the UVA's, Pitt's, UNC's and Duke's of the world. So realistically, we should expect at the very least 6 wins, 7 is likely and with a lucky bounce or two maybe 8 or 9.

    So assuming you guys are correct, a new system, improved recruiting classes in the 25-35 range on a yearly basis, we should have a roster stockpiled for 9-11 wins on a yearly basis by year three. Year three, the new coach will have mostly his players, his players, a roster loaded with NFL and we should be rolling by then. But the good news is, we won't have to wait. I expect immediate success.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbTech View Post
    I know there is a lot of negativity on this board but I wanted to lighten the mood a bit and give you guys a little pick me up. Here's the conclusion I've come to. Good times are ahead. And I don't mean in 4 or 5 years. I mean as soon as 2016. If they are not with Paul Johnson, they should be soon after with the new coach. Now, this is all based on what the smart guys on this board have told me (Jim, Yukon, Ramblinwreck92, and mack). My theory is based on the following assumptions:

    1. Paul Johnson gets fired this season
    2. Paul Johnson is as good at recruiting as a nun at an erectile dysfunction convention
    3. Paul Johnson is maybe the 13th, but probably the 14th best coach in the ACC
    4. Chan Gailey is an absolute buffoon
    5. Our offense is an absolute joke that ZERO good players with NFL aspirations want to play in
    6. Our defense sucks because of the offense
    7. Paul Johnson does not teach tackling
    8. Paul Johnson does not teach blocking
    9. No players will leave because of the coaching/system change
    10. The next coach runs a spread system, similar to Auburn

    This is all based on if #1 happens. Number 2, 4, 5, and 6 are all related. Assuming Paul Johnson is as good at recruiting as a nun at an erectile dysfunction convention and no good players want to play in the offense and no defensive players want to come because of the offense, and assuming Chan Gailey was an absolute buffoon, a new coach with a new system will automatically cause a HUGE spike in recruiting. Since Gailey took over, our average finish in the recruiting rankings has been #53, according to Rivals. Surprisingly, outside of the 2007 class, Gailey never had a class that finished in the top 50. Crazy. Assuming 2, 4, 5 and 6 are correct, that should bring our average recruiting rankings up to the top 30, easy. Top 30-35 classes will probably net at least 1 more win per year. Right now, we're at 7 per year.

    Then assuming #3, #7 and #8 is correct, if we get a coach that is at least in the middle of the pack in terms of the ACC coaching rankings that actually teaches blocking and tackling and isn't a lazy @$$ millionaire, that will net, at least, another 1 win per year. By my count, we're at 9 wins per year. What if we hit the jackpot? We're able to hire a guy that turns out to be one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in the conference? That's another win. We're at 10 now.

    Which brings me to number 9 and 10. This should get helluva fired up. Here is why we should not take a step back with a coaching change. I've heard about how very few of our guys on offense could play in another system. Laskey, Days, Zenon, Perkins, Hill. Good news....they are all seniors! CJ Leggett will be a redshirt freshman. He is a true tailback. He played in a spread system in HS. One year of option football won't be a problem. He'll slide into a tailback in the spread with ease. He has a lot of potential. Not to mention, Mikell Lands-Davis is a potential star in a spread option, Auburn type offense. Throw in Broderick Snoddy next year as a third string RB, and you have enough talent to make something happen as early as next year. Move Dennis Andrews to WR, as he had several offers including Arkansas, Cincinnati, Ole Miss and Vandy to play WR. You could also use him sort of like Auburn uses Corey Grant. Speed guy. Offensive line is good enough with Burden, Griffin and Devine. Wide receiver, you have Michael Summers, Andrews, and Philpott. Those guys should be able to be productive until the new coach brings his own guys in. Philpott will be a stud regardless.

    You may be asking, what about the quarterback position? Well, how will a triple option quarterback be able to transition into a shotgun spread option attack? Kevin Ellison from Georgia Southern gave me some hope. He looked good against NC State in his first game of a new offense. In reality, the principles of the offense shouldn't be much different. Look at what Nick Marshall does. Not much different from what our QB's do except he's in the shotgun. Justin Thomas played in a similar offense in high school and can do well enough to win games for two years against our schedule until the new coach recruits his guy.

    Expectations? Year one could be tough. But with an FCS game and a home game against Tulane, we should be able to start 2-0. At Notre Dame in week 3 should be a loss. At UGA, at Clemson and at Miami are likely losses but you never know. Paul Johnson did beat all of those teams in year one. FSU at home should be a loss but again, Paul Johnson was able to beat Christian Ponder and Winston should likely be in the NFL. You never know. VT is at home and according to the smart posters here, they are on a downward spiral and should be an easy W in the future. I expect the next coach to continue the domination of the UVA's, Pitt's, UNC's and Duke's of the world. So realistically, we should expect at the very least 6 wins, 7 is likely and with a lucky bounce or two maybe 8 or 9.

    So assuming you guys are correct, a new system, improved recruiting classes in the 25-35 range on a yearly basis, we should have a roster stockpiled for 9-11 wins on a yearly basis by year three. Year three, the new coach will have mostly his players, his players, a roster loaded with NFL and we should be rolling by then. But the good news is, we won't have to wait. I expect immediate success.
    AHHH young lad you see the light ! Thanks for the smart complement I will remember that in the future and yeah some of your points are in my mind good.I just dont see the drop off you USED to mention with a new coach mainly due to the fact that we still have good athletes that could go to a spread offense in a skinny minute .Since we are dreaming would it not be nice to have a guy who has offense on his mind day and night and LOVES to spread folks out and throw the ball.I would think folks would be attractied toward a wide open offense or hope they would anyway,Cobby I assume this is toungue in cheek with you but have to admit you have done your homework on this one and .........it could happen.Again I have said 6-4 this year and will stick by it and reallyl dont think PJ is leaving.What I would like to see on PJ is some other coaching shirt than..........blue.We are not Navy or Southern so little gold and white woudl be appreciated by old men.Good post and again like the complement on being smart.........certainly not used to that anymore.

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    Whoa meant 8-4 and hit wrong button.......glad i am not in a missle command center...............with my skills Russia would have been nuked several times.

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    Don't feed the troll!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    Don't feed the troll!
    Huh? Which part is not true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbTech View Post
    Huh? Which part is not true?
    Naw he is expressing a view that is held by many...still think 8-4 is doable this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack View Post
    Naw he is expressing a view that is held by many...still think 8-4 is doable this year.
    Have you stopped taking your medication again, Sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonwreck View Post
    Have you stopped taking your medication again, Sir?
    Naw just in a charitable mood today just ran into the Preacher..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbTech View Post
    Huh? Which part is not true?
    You're actually being serious? Sounds to me like more of your "If PJ is such a terrible coach and can go 7-5 every year, then the next coach should win 9+ immediately"

    If you are being serious, thre are way too many pollyana assumptions...JT may not be a great QB, certainly wouldn't compare to Nick Marshall yet...and we have Leggett, one tailback...and questionable WRs...and man that OL still looks small. And the D is severely lacking in talent. Maybe all these things can be addressed by year 3 but I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
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    You're actually being serious? Sounds to me like more of your "If PJ is such a terrible coach and can go 7-5 every year, then the next coach should win 9+ immediately"

    If you are being serious, thre are way too many pollyana assumptions...JT may not be a great QB, certainly wouldn't compare to Nick Marshall yet...and we have Leggett, one tailback...and questionable WRs...and man that OL still looks small. And the D is severely lacking in talent. Maybe all these things can be addressed by year 3 but I dunno.

    He's not being serious. He's happy with an 8-win annual ceiling, beating no one of significance, and losses to the mutts, as he's one of the growing number of fans who thinks this is as good as it gets and that we're stupid to even want to beat the mutts, much less expecting more than 1 victory every 10 years.

    Lowered Expectations: The Hallmark of the Paul Johnson Error, um, Era.

 

 
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