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    For those who want PJ gone

    Answer the following question from potential replacments:

    How am I expected to beat UGA and win the ACC when the previous coach got squeezed on Autry and Custis?

    Whatever your opinion on PJ as a coach is. He has increased the graduation rate and the APR. Yet, the Hill is it making difficult to get these 2 guys in. It's easy to romanticize about getting 4 star recruits with 4.0 GPA's but the fact is you are going to take some borderline recruits. O'Leary did which is why he had McWhorter and other coaches doing bed checks so kids got to class.


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    Autry and Custs weren't just exceptions, they literally failed to graduate from HS on the first try. They would be an exception going to a Community College! I would venture to guess that most of UGA's players made it out of HS on the first attempt. The Hill isn't making it difficult, the Hill let him do it. It was my understanding that they loosened up on allowing exceptions.

    APR is icing on the turd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    APR is icing on the turd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3518techie View Post
    Answer the following question from potential replacments:

    How am I expected to beat UGA and win the ACC when the previous coach got squeezed on Autry and Custis?

    Whatever your opinion on PJ as a coach is. He has increased the graduation rate and the APR. Yet, the Hill is it making difficult to get these 2 guys in. It's easy to romanticize about getting 4 star recruits with 4.0 GPA's but the fact is you are going to take some borderline recruits. O'Leary did which is why he had McWhorter and other coaches doing bed checks so kids got to class.
    It can be done ...GOL ran a tight ship with Coaches monitoring classes and study halls I understand but my bottom line is this.In the sixty odd years I have followed tech football I never worried about graduation rates.I wanted to see folks win on the field on Saturady.Doubt any Georgie MD or Lawyer gets up in the mornig and says..........wonder what Gurley did on his history test...Now not to be too cold hearted but the kids know what they are in for or at least they should and I would hope that after playing they get a degree since not all will make the NFL and th Pro Bowl but when you are playing football you have a referee who calls the infractions and tries to make the game equal.When we play liberal art schools we dont have that protection so ..........lets let up and see what we can do. My fear is the liberal art schools can make a kid elgible and ........keep him elgible and they dont have a calculus book thrown on the kitchen table when their coaches come to the house to recruit.I agree we dont well with what we have but when a liberal art school gets a decent coach ..........we are in for big trouble unless we change.Just a old man idea but make the field level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack View Post
    It can be done ...GOL ran a tight ship with Coaches monitoring classes and study halls I understand but my bottom line is this.In the sixty odd years I have followed tech football I never worried about graduation rates.I wanted to see folks win on the field on Saturady.Doubt any Georgie MD or Lawyer gets up in the mornig and says..........wonder what Gurley did on his history test...Now not to be too cold hearted but the kids know what they are in for or at least they should and I would hope that after playing they get a degree since not all will make the NFL and th Pro Bowl but when you are playing football you have a referee who calls the infractions and tries to make the game equal.When we play liberal art schools we dont have that protection so ..........lets let up and see what we can do. My fear is the liberal art schools can make a kid elgible and ........keep him elgible and they dont have a calculus book thrown on the kitchen table when their coaches come to the house to recruit.I agree we dont well with what we have but when a liberal art school gets a decent coach ..........we are in for big trouble unless we change.Just a old man idea but make the field level.
    You say GOL ran a tight ship but didn't we get put on probation because of him playing ineligble players? Refresh my memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbTech View Post
    You say GOL ran a tight ship but didn't we get put on probation because of him playing ineligble players? Refresh my memory.
    Beat Georgia three in a row. I don't recall any probation, and we went to some bowl games, beat Notre Dame in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonwreck View Post
    Beat Georgia three in a row. I don't recall any probation, and we went to some bowl games, beat Notre Dame in one.
    I didn't ask about his accomplishments but thanks for reminding me that Georgia Tech is a stepping stone job and we'll never be able to keep a great coach around (if we ever get one).

    But yes, O'Leary used ineligible players and we had to vacate wins, lost scholarships and got put on probation. It came out when Gailey was the coach.

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    I, for one, could not care less about our graduation rate nor APR. I just want us to win football games.

    Tech fans are the only ones I've ever met to bring up these 2 useless stats. Even Puke fans don't point to 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbTech View Post
    I didn't ask about his accomplishments but thanks for reminding me that Georgia Tech is a stepping stone job and we'll never be able to keep a great coach around (if we ever get one).

    But yes, O'Leary used ineligible players and we had to vacate wins, lost scholarships and got put on probation. It came out when Gailey was the coach.
    He also lied on his resume, fondled some acolytes, and was eventually excommunicated and is awaiting transportation to the Third Circle of the Inferno reserved for the gluttonous. He also had a player die on his watch at UCF. I fail to see your point, but I often find your posts somewhat pointless. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    Autry and Custs weren't just exceptions, they literally failed to graduate from HS on the first try. They would be an exception going to a Community College! I would venture to guess that most of UGA's players made it out of HS on the first attempt. The Hill isn't making it difficult, the Hill let him do it. It was my understanding that they loosened up on allowing exceptions.

    APR is icing on the turd.
    Everyone knows high-stakes tests in public schools are unfair and discrimintory. It would be ridiculous to use them as an indicator of a student's future performance. We shouldn't care when they "get it" , as long as they eventually "get it".

 

 
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