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    Justin Thomas - My Analysis

    Since the biggest criticism of Paul Johnson has been his recruiting, it is ironic that Tech's #1 QB was flipped from Nick Saban. I saw almost all of JT's play at QB last season. Below is my analysis.

    The Good:

    1.) Reads - JT did a much better job than Vad. I remember one play where the defense had the option stopped. JT took his medicine turned up field and got 2 yards. It was the type of play Vad was losing 4 yards trying to reverse his field. JT was late on some pitches but no QB is perfect on the option.
    2.) Arm Strength - This was a pleasant surprise. JT's throwing motion is unusual but he made some good deep throws. If teams start to cheat thinking JT is just a runner, he will make them pay on the deep pass.
    3.) Back end speed - Once JT gets into the secondary, it is over. He blew past Elon's secondary even though he wasn't 100 percent. We could see some long TD runs in 2014.

    The Concerns:

    1.) Size and Durability - JT's is generously listed as 5'1l and I doubt weighs more than 175. I wonder if he can take the hits the way Vad did. Vad missed only a handful of plays last year.
    2.) Telegraphing Passes - He did that against both Miami and UVA. This is something that can be improved with coaching but our QB coaching leaves a lot to be desired.
    3.) Front end speed - I haven't seen that initial burst you see from someone like a Johnny Manziel. I remember a game where he was going to the sideline. I thought he would be able to turn it up but the linebacker was able to cut him off and force him out of bounds. He has great 40 speed but it seems like it is more in the last 20.

    Overall: It is ironic that in PJ's seventh season that this is the first pure option QB that will be the starter. I think that JT can be an excellent QB but I have concerns about the supporting cast. Laskey is good at finding holes but is not the type of B-Back that will open up the outside. Godhigh is gone and we need guys like Hill, Bostic and Days to elevate their play. Because of JT's height, the pass blocking needs to be better to give JT throwing lanes. We haven't seen an o-line overachieve in a while.


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    Pretty solid and balanced analysis, I think.

    I'm more optimistic about JT than not, but I do worry about the O line, and we definitely need someone else to emerge as a playmaker on offense.

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    I have no idea. But I think you're right that he needs some help. I think it's asking way too much of him to carry a team right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3518techie View Post
    Since the biggest criticism of Paul Johnson has been his recruiting, it is ironic that Tech's #1 QB was flipped from Nick Saban. I saw almost all of JT's play at QB last season. Below is my analysis.

    The Good:

    1.) Reads - JT did a much better job than Vad. I remember one play where the defense had the option stopped. JT took his medicine turned up field and got 2 yards. It was the type of play Vad was losing 4 yards trying to reverse his field. JT was late on some pitches but no QB is perfect on the option.
    2.) Arm Strength - This was a pleasant surprise. JT's throwing motion is unusual but he made some good deep throws. If teams start to cheat thinking JT is just a runner, he will make them pay on the deep pass.
    3.) Back end speed - Once JT gets into the secondary, it is over. He blew past Elon's secondary even though he wasn't 100 percent. We could see some long TD runs in 2014.

    The Concerns:

    1.) Size and Durability - JT's is generously listed as 5'1l and I doubt weighs more than 175. I wonder if he can take the hits the way Vad did. Vad missed only a handful of plays last year.
    2.) Telegraphing Passes - He did that against both Miami and UVA. This is something that can be improved with coaching but our QB coaching leaves a lot to be desired.9
    3.) Front end speed - I haven't seen that initial burst you see from someone like a Johnny Manziel. I remember a game where he was going to the sideline. I thought he would be able to turn it up but the linebacker was able to cut him off and force him out of bounds. He has great 40 speed but it seems like it is more in the last 20.

    Overall: It is ironic that in PJ's seventh season that this is the first pure option QB that will be the starter. I think that JT can be an excellent QB but I have concerns about the supporting cast. Laskey is good at finding holes but is not the type of B-Back that will open up the outside. Godhigh is gone and we need guys like Hill, Bostic and Days to elevate their play. Because of JT's height, the pass blocking needs to be better to give JT throwing lanes. We haven't seen an o-line overachieve in a while.
    Like bud u have said it all.

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    I'm curious...what is a "pure option QB"? All he can do is run the option well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    I'm curious...what is a "pure option QB"? All he can do is run the option well?
    My take is a guy who can read the keys naturally or a guy who has played the option in HS.Last few qbs we have had had no experience at running the option.Two of them JN and Vad were spread qbs.I would think this is a advantage for JT but he is in my humble opinion sort of small to run the offense.I hope I am wrong since we are going to run it anyway no matter who the qb is.Question is what did Bama want him to play that led him to us ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack View Post
    My take is a guy who can read the keys naturally or a guy who has played the option in HS.Last few qbs we have had had no experience at running the option.Two of them JN and Vad were spread qbs.I would think this is a advantage for JT but he is in my humble opinion sort of small to run the offense.I hope I am wrong since we are going to run it anyway no matter who the qb is.Question is what did Bama want him to play that led him to us ?
    Bama did not want him at QB. They first said they'd give him a shot to get him there but later came clean and said he wasn't ever playing QB, that's when he came to GT. I believe we are the only ones that took him as a QB (obviously he doesn't fit the mold for QB in most other offenses).

    I guess I don't feel like we know enough about JT to call him anything other than a first year starter that has a big load to carry! He probably has the potential to be a great "option QB" with his quickness and speed but am really curious to see him pass more with that odd (but quick) release of his and his vertical limitations. Definitely has enough arm strength though. I want to say we saw a limited play selection from him last year, but that's kind of our whole offense, ha.

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    Remember, Pat White or Philip Rivers weren't highly regarded either.

    Like Helluva said, we don't know enough except that he's a first year starter with a big load to carry.

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    I'd like to correct something here, pj did not flip this guy to come here. He came because he was told by (whom I don't know) Tech he would get a chance at QB, doesn't really matter, pj will destroy this kid the same way he almost destroyed VAD!

    Hate to tell you or anyone but Rivers was highly recruited and extremely well regarded. He played at Athens a suburb of Huntsville and was visited by most SEC schools and many from the B1G as well as the ACC.
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    My only question is....when the good teams we play (VPI, Clemson, mutts, etc) shut down the option and outside, as they always do, will JT be able to beat him with his arm? Hell, will The Genius even let him try to? Will The Genius instead just keep running the same crap that isn't working, i.e. the entire 2013 season?

    I only saw a few throws by him - not nearly enough to pass judgment. I wish him all the best.

 

 
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