We lost out on Lawson due to academics???

**dressedcheeseside** · 02-07-2013 10:09 AM

This is really hard for me to swallow, but here it is (ajc):

Meanwhile, Tech had inside position with Lawson because his father played football there. Lawson gave the Yellow Jackets serious consideration, as recently as last week, but decided he would have a better opportunity of pursuing his college major of kinesiology elsewhere.

I checked the GT course offerings and the closest we have to a degree in kinesiology is a certificate in applied physiology.

The School of Applied Physiology does not offer an undergraduate degree. The Certificate in Applied Physiology is designed to supplement the experience of students majoring in other sciences or engineering and to improve their career opportunities in areas related to human biology, medicine and health.

http://www.ap.gatech.edu/academic/

So, apparently, our limited course offerings bite us in the butt once again.

**Yukonwreck** · 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside

This is really hard for me to swallow, but here it is (ajc):

I checked the GT course offerings and the closest we have to a degree in kinesiology is a certificate in applied physiology.

Academic Programs

So, apparently, our limited course offerings bite us in the butt once again.

At least it wasn't because his mom ran off with his LOI to cash a check from Nevin Shapiro!

**pckl300** · 02-07-2013 11:42 AM

It should be no secret that our degree offerings will filter our football recruits in the same way that it filters the student body. Because of the very specific nature of our academics, our student body carries the stereotype of being nerds, and it's mostly true. GT's student body is very diverse by race and ethnicity, but not by culture. Our school attracts a very specific type of person. It should come as no surprise that it applies to the football team as well; the players are students, after all.

The tricky part comes when we try to reconcile what we should do going forward. Do we want to keep our focus strictly on engineering, and have the football team suffer as a result of that? Or, do we want to begin an honest liberal arts program offering Tech's first BA degrees? If UGA can start an engineering program, I don't see why we can't start an arts program.

I'm in favor of the latter. I'm a Computer Scientist, but I very much enjoy the company of artistic people, something Tech is sorely lacking. Right now, Tech's campus and the work that goes on there is a sort of orgy of engineering and science, with very little in the way of art. Honestly, I think engineers and artists can learn a lot from each other, and I would like to see more collaboration between the two disciplines going forward. But, for that, we need to start an arts program. For example, as a computer scientist, I would very much like to collaborate with graphic designers (of which tech has none) and industrial designers (of which tech has few).

**GT Man** · 02-07-2013 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside

This is really hard for me to swallow, but here it is (ajc):

I checked the GT course offerings and the closest we have to a degree in kinesiology is a certificate in applied physiology.

Academic Programs

So, apparently, our limited course offerings bite us in the butt once again.

Yep, Jim are you reading this???
GT is basically "BS degree or NOTHING" and we wonder why we miss out on recruits.

**Jeagt** · 02-07-2013 01:33 PM

I think there's to many time when academics are brought up with regard to GT that everyone wants to jump on the "GT isn't the only place with tough academics" argument. Which is entirely true but is not the reason we have it tougher. It's the narrow degree offerings. It doesn't matter how good the our management degree is if you want to major in something else and have the option at another decent school. I know we've seen the list of degree offerings from GT as well from other academic schools, Notre Dame, Stanford, etc...but that doesn't paint a full picture. I'd be willing to bet that if you looked at every BCS school that if GT doesn't top the list of least number of degree offerings that we're in the top few.

**srschirm** · 02-07-2013 01:34 PM

Kinesiology is a highly technical field. We should have something like this at GT.

**Animal** · 02-07-2013 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jeagt

I think there's to many time when academics are brought up with regard to GT that everyone wants to jump on the "GT isn't the only place with tough academics" argument. Which is entirely true but is not the reason we have it tougher. It's the narrow degree offerings. It doesn't matter how good the our management degree is if you want to major in something else and have the option at another decent school. I know we've seen the list of degree offerings from GT as well from other academic schools, Notre Dame, Stanford, etc...but that doesn't paint a full picture. I'd be willing to bet that if you looked at every BCS school that if GT doesn't top the list of least number of degree offerings that we're in the top few.

I thought maybe the military academies, but even West Point has more offerings

West Point

American Politics
Art, Philosophy and Literature
Chemical Engineering
Chemistry
Civil Engineering
Comparative Politics
Computer Science
Defense and Strategic Studies
Economics
Electrical Engineering
Engineering Management
Engineering Psychology Environmental Engineering
Environmental Geography
Environmental Science
Foreign Area Studies
Foreign Languages
Geospatial Information Science
History
Human Geography
Information Technology
International Relations
Kinesiology
Leader Development Science
Legal Studies
Life Science
Management
Mathematical Science
Mechanical Engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Operations Research
Physics
Psychology
Sociology
Systems Engineering
Systems Management

**Animal** · 02-07-2013 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by srschirm

Kinesiology is a highly technical field. We should have something like this at GT.

Had to look it up...this is the description from West Point

Kinesiology is a broad, interdisciplinary field of study that includes specialties such as exercise physiology, biomechanics, sports medicine, sports nutrition, exercise psychology, and exercise epidemiology. Areas of inquiry range in scope from the study of molecular response of cells to the response and adaptation of the whole body. The major will encompass a wide spectrum of performance issues involving muscular and cardiovascular physiology, energy balance, exercise adherence, and skill acquisition and motor control.

Seems to me that it could fit in interdisciplinary between chemistry and biology. Still need to make them take calculus

**dressedcheeseside** · 02-07-2013 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Animal

Had to look it up...this is the description from West Point

Kinesiology is a broad, interdisciplinary field of study that includes specialties such as exercise physiology, biomechanics, sports medicine, sports nutrition, exercise psychology, and exercise epidemiology. Areas of inquiry range in scope from the study of molecular response of cells to the response and adaptation of the whole body. The major will encompass a wide spectrum of performance issues involving muscular and cardiovascular physiology, energy balance, exercise adherence, and skill acquisition and motor control.

Seems to me that it could fit in interdisciplinary between chemistry and biology. Still need to make them take calculus

The thing about adding any new major is that in addition to selling it to the GT academic powers, we'd have to convince the BoR there's a need for it not being met by all the other system Universities that already offer it.

**srschirm** · 02-07-2013 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside

The thing about adding any new major is that in addition to selling it to the GT academic powers, we'd have to convince the BoR there's a need for it not being met by all the other system Universities that already offer it.

Of course there's a need. We'd do it better.

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