This is a discussion on Yeesh. Just looked at Gomer's recruiting 2002-2007 within the Georgia Tech Football forums, part of the Georgia Tech Sports Message Boards category; Wow. All this talk about how bad PJ has been doing got me to take a gander at the names ...
Wow. All this talk about how bad PJ has been doing got me to take a gander at the names Gomer recruited. Scary. It's amazing what Jon Tenuta was able to do with the guys we had, to give us a defense that good. The mediocre offense that could barely score at times was more indicative of Gomer's coaching.....and recruiting. 2007 is DEFINITELY skewing people's perceptions.
2002: 12 signees. 5 NR 2 4* 3 3*. 4* included George Cooper and K David Jordan. Downright awful class really. Guys failed out, weren't very good and a couple did well (Chris Reis, Cooper was decent, Eziemefe decent)
2003: Better. 21 signees. 9 NR or 2*. Many of these 2* guys Tenuta turned into great players (KaMichael Hall, Anoai, Oliver). Kenny Scott was the jewel, and he was a fine player if not a little heady. Mansfield Wrotto moved from DL to OL and played in the NFL a few years. The infamous Reggie Ball class!
2004: 24 signees. Calvin! D Richard! HUGE dropoff. Only guys worth mentioning besides those two who lived up to the billing are Wheeler, Mike Cox and Guyton. Andrew Gardner blossomed into a good lineman as well. Besides them, not much going on.
2005: 20 signees. Michael Johnson and LOTS of 2* guys. Gotta say, if you hate PJ getting 2* guys you'll hate this class. So many 2* guys SOME of 'em had to be jewels, and there were a couple. Cord Howard, Vance Walker, Dan Voss. Greg Smith was pretty good while here. AT Barnes was 4*, didn't live up to it. Jahi-Word Daniels was a 3* and ended up being solid. Not much going on here.
2006: 14 signees. Bay Bay (developed by PJ) and not much else. 4* Laurence Marius didn't amount to much. 2* Robert Hall, and Ben Anderson decent players. 2* Dominque Reese moves to CB from WR and is ok.
2007: MAGIC. And by all accounts could've been better if Tarrant stays clean, Willie White materializes and DJ Donley sticks around.
All in all, I think PJ's first 5 classes are MUCH better than those put together by Gomer. 2007 was SO good, we rate every class PJ has assembled against that. And, don't forget, 2007 wasn't because of Gomer it was in SPITE of him....he interviewed with TWO NFL teams about vacant jobs.
It's funny these debates the anti Johnson group complains about his recruiting but when you look at the facts he has done equal or better then his predecessors did. As another poster pointed out in a different thread the only common denominator is the school. We are an academic institution first (reduced recruiting field), further few majors offered (further diminishes there recruiting field). Lastly we are in Atlanta and recruit against everyone (all factories) and we are a small school with a small fan base with a small stadium that is half empty most games and we play in the ACC. All these factors makes it hard to market to 17-18 year olds to pick our school over the factories
doesn't really matter now. we are where we are and CPJ needs to get the most outta the classes we bring in. in hindsight, the CAG hire really hurt our D. set us back years. CTR's got his hands friggin' full cleaning up the CAG mess. i like what i've heard from him. aggressive, go-getter, style D. less complexity and more fundamentals. a much better complement to our O than CAG having our DL play pattycake and our secondary playing sign language games while the ball's being snapped.
Last edited by stonedwall; 02-01-2013 at 01:06 PM.
Notice he had 3 fairly good sized classes there in the middle. Those are things of the past as our attrition rate is much lower now. Now you have to keep guys on track to graduate to be eligible. In the old days, you could let 'em take remedial courses for 5 years then dump them out with no degree when their eligiblility was up. That's how we were able to take so many knuckle heads who had no business in a GT classroom (moreso in the Ross and O'leary eras). Ah, the good ol' days.
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Most of us don't think Gailey was a good recruiter. He does get credit for bringing in the 2007 class though. The whole idea of Gailey being a great recruitier is something the FOPers have come up with to try to nail the Paul Johnson skeptics on something.
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11 out of 12. When will this stop?
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Some pretty decent lower-ranked guys in there. I understand that he had the ability to get bigger classes in, which helps when you're playing the numbers game of finding diamonds in the rough... but he wasn't terrible.
2007 was amazing, obviously.