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    Option in the NFL

    How about that 49'ers game? We'll likely see some more option in the Falcons game today.

    Of course, it's not to be confused with our option. It's possible that the option's rise could in fact make our own QB recruiting that much more difficult (supply and demand).

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    Well I know it is a major reach, but Vad Lee looks better throwing the ball than Kaepernick, at least from a throwing motion smoothness standpoint. He ran a 4.5 at the combine. I'm sure Vad has similar speed. With CPJ saying that he wanted to run more pistol stuff maybe it will allow somebody like Vad Lee that if they have a really good college career, to actually get drafted to play QB in the NFL for teams that run this style of offense. I would say it is a definite plus for Georgia Tech. It is up to Vad to work extremely hard, and for CPJ to give him enough opportunities to show the NFL that he is a capable enough passer to get teams interested in him. Long way to go though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babuka View Post
    Well I know it is a major reach, but Vad Lee looks better throwing the ball than Kaepernick, at least from a throwing motion smoothness standpoint. He ran a 4.5 at the combine. I'm sure Vad has similar speed. With CPJ saying that he wanted to run more pistol stuff maybe it will allow somebody like Vad Lee that if they have a really good college career, to actually get drafted to play QB in the NFL for teams that run this style of offense. I would say it is a definite plus for Georgia Tech. It is up to Vad to work extremely hard, and for CPJ to give him enough opportunities to show the NFL that he is a capable enough passer to get teams interested in him. Long way to go though.
    I'll second that. Kap has a cannon and damn if he didn't straight up out run the GB defense on a few occasions. Dude is fast, but VL does have that nasty acceleration too. I don't think VL's arm is as strong but he has the touch that Kap is missing. I had VL in the back of my mind the whole game.

    I also think Kap is more likely to actually survive a few years as opposed to RGIII. He runs smarter and has a better build for it, to me at least.

    Nevada was a 65/35 run/pass team in 2010. I'd love to see our ratio improve with VL.
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    We've run the diamond formation that the 49ers used yesterday...I think it was in 2011, though I can't find footage at the moment.

    CPJ does have multiple formations...his MO has always been heavy flexbone plays, sprinkled in with a few plays from a secondary formation (the pistol this year) if at all. He's never going to mix more than 2 formations heavily, but he has particularly in his Hawaii days. I think he'd rather be a "master" in one thing rather a "master" of none.

    I know the flexbone spread option purists don't care about how much we pass, but I want to see us pass more. Atleast 15 times if not more. I think we need to take advantage of Vad's talents, and in the long run it will help us with higher tier recruits. Outside of recruiting, I think being able to pass better (and more) will help with our run game. It puts so much pressure on the outside backers and secondary to diagnose and react properly that both phases of our offense benefits. For selfish reasons, I just enjoy a nice passing game, and I think we have the schemes to be a very potent passing offense as well as a potent running offense (duh!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGT View Post
    We've run the diamond formation that the 49ers used yesterday...I think it was in 2011, though I can't find footage at the moment.

    CPJ does have multiple formations...his MO has always been heavy flexbone plays, sprinkled in with a few plays from a secondary formation (the pistol this year) if at all. He's never going to mix more than 2 formations heavily, but he has particularly in his Hawaii days. I think he'd rather be a "master" in one thing rather a "master" of none.

    I know the flexbone spread option purists don't care about how much we pass, but I want to see us pass more. Atleast 15 times if not more. I think we need to take advantage of Vad's talents, and in the long run it will help us with higher tier recruits. Outside of recruiting, I think being able to pass better (and more) will help with our run game. It puts so much pressure on the outside backers and secondary to diagnose and react properly that both phases of our offense benefits. For selfish reasons, I just enjoy a nice passing game, and I think we have the schemes to be a very potent passing offense as well as a potent running offense (duh!).
    Absolutely!

    Someone tell me, why do I like the Pistol/Shotgun option offenses so much more than the Flexbone? I think I have it figured out...it's the A-backs and all the hocus pocus on the perimeter...anything more than 2 options is just too much for me and too strung out, too much like a rugby match. And everything is so bunched up at the LOS...and so little passing. So, basically, everything about it, ha.

    I'm going to let myself believe things will open up a little with VL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babuka View Post
    Well I know it is a major reach, but Vad Lee looks better throwing the ball than Kaepernick, at least from a throwing motion smoothness standpoint. He ran a 4.5 at the combine. I'm sure Vad has similar speed. With CPJ saying that he wanted to run more pistol stuff maybe it will allow somebody like Vad Lee that if they have a really good college career, to actually get drafted to play QB in the NFL for teams that run this style of offense. I would say it is a definite plus for Georgia Tech. It is up to Vad to work extremely hard, and for CPJ to give him enough opportunities to show the NFL that he is a capable enough passer to get teams interested in him. Long way to go though.
    You're not reaching...Vad is pretty polished in QB fundamentals. It's no mistake either...he's always talking about studying the fundamentals of great passers like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Vad has a very quick release, and a great compact throwing motion...and I think CPJ knows that and that's why he's run some quick stuff with Vad in at QB. Dude can get a lot of velocity behind his passes without much effort. Yeah, I know Vad is a gifted runner, but it would be an absolute crime to waste his passing talents by having him run read options all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGT View Post
    We've run the diamond formation that the 49ers used yesterday...I think it was in 2011, though I can't find footage at the moment.

    CPJ does have multiple formations...his MO has always been heavy flexbone plays, sprinkled in with a few plays from a secondary formation (the pistol this year) if at all. He's never going to mix more than 2 formations heavily, but he has particularly in his Hawaii days. I think he'd rather be a "master" in one thing rather a "master" of none.

    I know the flexbone spread option purists don't care about how much we pass, but I want to see us pass more.
    Uh, I would like to see more passing as well. Comparing next seasons' starters against 2009 I think we've seen all the pieces of the passing game improve dramatically for WR1; O-Line pass pro, A-backs as receivers, and QB are all greatly improved, but Bay Bay was/is special and hard to replace.
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    Our option looks nothing like the stuff the NFL runs.
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    Kap is really fun to watch.
    I remember watching him at Nevada and thinking "DAMN this dude can run!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    How about that 49'ers game? We'll likely see some more option in the Falcons game today.

    Of course, it's not to be confused with our option. It's possible that the option's rise could in fact make our own QB recruiting that much more difficult (supply and demand).

    Great - that's all we need - more excuses for poor recruiting.

 

 

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