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    How close are we?

    I know there is the obvious euphoria following a bowl win, an unexpected, improbable, and very satisfying, bowl win. We are losing a few starters to graduation, but even the loss of Orwin Smith and Izaan Cross and Uzzi are not catastrophic, and there is capable talent (assumed) waiting in the wings. We need some corners to go with Young depending on where Jemea plays, but the LB should be improved, the DL will be equal to this year or better, and the overall defense should benefit from a more stable coaching situation regardless of who gets the job. On offense, the line should be more experience and deeper, QB is sure to be an upgrade, WR will be better--remember in Blacksburg we didn't have one WR on the squad that had ever caught a varisity pass---now we do. At running back there are so many candidates and (like in the past) all we need is one BB and 2 AB's to break out and be great. I don't see any Dwyers or Allens, but all we need is Bostic, or Laskey, or, or, or to rise to the next level--it could happen-especially if aided by an effective passing game. Special teams are still a mystery, but assuming that the coaching situation simmers down some, and we get Stamps back full time or at least more time, we have some incoming talent that could help. We lost 7 games. Are we even close to coming back next year and beating a VPI in Atlanta, or a Clempsen, or a Georgia?? Can we expect to be competitive against Miami, and hold service against the lesser teams on the schedule? When you are 7-7 it doesn't take much to just be a better team. But are we close to being a ten win team? It is now to the point that we have to go out and win, and stop looking to next year and next year's recruits. In 2012 the time was NOW, but we melted down. It is still time to go out and do it. Are we close, or just kidding ourselves?
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    Its always be said by numerous people that 2013 is the make or break year for CPJ and crew. As well as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatron View Post
    Its always be said by numerous people that 2013 is the make or break year for CPJ and crew. As well as it should be.
    yep ,I, among many said that 2 yrs ago.Going into '13 at 7-7 wasn't what we wanted.It does show we not as fundamentally strong as we expected(recruiting?).The last 6 qtrs does give hope for better DEF which will be a MAJOR improvement.
    THe 3 top keys for better season at this point.(subject to revision)
    1.How Vad/QBs play.
    2.How Vad/QBs play.
    3.How the new DL plays.

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    Next year schedule is pretty tough, but we do have most of the tough game at home. Go Jacket!!! Beat them all!!!

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    The D Line is key. The talent has to be developed and coached up.
    Another wideout would help as well.

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    Seems like forever since Tech has some evenness amongst its classes. For years tech has had what seems like only 7-10 seniors on the team, and many were not playing much. Next year you will finally get 16 seniors, 20 juniors, 15 sophomores, 18 redshirted freshman, etc. The 2006 class was weak, 2007 was top heavy and they left early, and the 2008 class was the coaching crossover class and the worst under CPJ. Those guys were veterans, so to speak, for 2010-2012. Couple that with CPJs most talented QB duo yet, heading into 2013 and you get excitement. Although the defensive line is of great concern regardless of the coach to me. I still need to see more improvement out of the WRs and B-Back.

    Who would you take if the 2013 squad played the 2009 squad in a game? You could argue that outside of Dwyer, Thomas, and Derrick Morgan that Tech would be better at almost every other position.

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    I liked our ST play in the bowl game. If that improving trend continues, I believe that will be a huge impact on 2013. Remember how many games this season came down to ST play? (or lack thereof)

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    The defense as a whole is the Rosetta Stone. Doesn't have to be great, though we all hope it will. But it has to be good, get some stops, get the offense off the field and our offense on. Special teams has to be better, and I think it got better, though maybe marginally. But as Golden demonstrated, one guy on a special team can be a world beater. The usual suspect is obviously QB, where we should -- should -- get an upgrade however the competition plays out. There's a lot to be said for a guy who can take a busted play and turn it into something 20 yards downfield. And yes, B back is a dilemma. But kind of sneaking in under the radar is this: The four guys who got time at B back in '12, led by Laskey and Sims, got more than 1,400 yards rushing. True, no bustout, take-it-to-the-house runs, what in the end we got 1,400 yards out of the position.

    A lot of question marks but a lot of returning strength. I think Days has to step up -- and the boy do have an attitude, doesn't he? -- and I hope that 2-3 more with some size pop up. Don't know what Snoddy's problem is but Johnson clearly didn't have a lot of trust in him -- I suppose the old warning, block or go home, applies -- but I would like to see size and speed at the wing positions. Pony backs do a lot better -- see Dodd, Teas, Thompson, Hardeman, world without end -- starting off running square to the line than in trying to get to the edge and then squared up. Some of those arm tackles on them were rag doll affairs that made me cringe. I think we are close. Moreover, I think even the Johnson acolytes on the board acknowledge we had better be. We just saw what could happen to a moderately successful (NC State) coach who couldn't get over the hump with a new AD.

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    With VT being mediocre and Miami hardly being a juggernaut, we are close to winning 9+ games. With or without Tahj Boyd, Clemson hasnt beaten us in ATL since 2003. Not sure if we're close to beating UGA. They've scored 30+ every time we've played them since PJ arrived, 40+ in 3 out of the 5 games. Unless our defense has improved dramatically, we won't beat Georgia. I do think we have a really good shot at winning 9 regular season games and playing in the ACC title game.

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    I said it before this year, but I also said this unit would be even better in '13. That's right, the OL. Yeah, we need a DL and D overall. But I really think our O is poised to take off next year behind a deep group of veteran O-linemen well versed in the offense, very athletic and with good size, to boot. When our speedy qb's and punishing bbacks gash defenses with long runs, don't forget to acknowledge the massive fissures created by the big uglies up front.
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