Gotcha...I can talk about this stuff all night. Thanks.Pratley was doing his thing before Muskegon's stuff got popular, I believe. It's based on flexbone principles as well, but he's got a little bit of a different idea of how to do it.
"Pistol" usually just refers to the formation. You can run tons of different offensive systems from it - it's just the idea of having a RB or two behind the QB. Ault's Nevada system is mostly based on Zone Read (though he also does some Inside Veer).
"Ski Gun" (later "raygun" and now something else now that Annese is at Ferris State) refers to a specific offensive system.
Usually, the Ski-Gun will have the QB in a shorter pistol. I'd put our guys at 2.5 yards behind the center. I think Annese might have his guys a little closer. The B-Back is in a 3 point stance a few yards behind him. The slots are 5 yards off the offensive tackles.
But the offensive system is basically just the flexbone/spread option system. You run Inside Veer triple option first, then you run Midline, complement both with Zone Dive, run Rocket (though the SkiGun guys run a ton of Jet too), complement that with a counter play, complement all the running plays with some playaction, etc.
Annese likes his quick passing game too and runs a slant/bubble combo with the slots and WRs a ton. He's also got a variety of screens.
As far as I can tell, Annese doesn't run much Run and Shoot stuff, preferring the quick game and playaction. He's also running a lot of shotgun this year, but that's a different story.
Here at Georgia Tech, we're more in a Nevada-type pistol, with the QB 4 yards back instead of 2 or 3. Our B-Back is in a 2 point stance and his role in our Pistol offense is more analogous to a Run and Shoot "Superback" than a B-Back ---- he's pass protecting most of the time, or getting the ball on screens. The RnS backs would get a nice dose of traps too, so maybe that's somewhere on the horizon for us.
It'd be tough to see us running a true Inside Veer triple option out of our current pistol set, just because it'd hit quite a bit slower if we had the B-Back diving. He's also so close to the QB that it'd be tough to get the timing right. I'm not saying it'd be impossible... Florida under Meyer would run some inside veer from shotgun, which hit at about the speed you'd be able to get from us...the only difference was he'd have the aiming point for the running back be more inside, usually at the inside leg of the offensive guard, rather than his outside leg, which is the usual aiming point.
We'd probably be able to pull off a Zone Read triple option the way Nevada sometimes does.
Right now our option play out of it seems to be an interesting kind of inverted veer. Usually the QB has the running lane outside the tackle and the running back has the lane inside of it. With our Jet Read, the QB, if he pulls, is supposed to follow a pulling guard through the inside lane. (I think. There's a thread on here about this play somewhere).
So... yeah. I think we've only run two running plays out of the pistol this year
1) QB Draw - same one we do from under center
2) Jet Read - Never seen it before.
Passing plays I've seen:
1) Mesh/Inside Cross - we did this from both under center and from pistol in the VT game, scoring on it from the pistol.
2) BB Screen - similar to what we did with Dwyer from under center once or twice
3) 4 Verticals - with different tags and option route adjustments.
4) Go - run and shoot play that we do from under center
5) etc. Just a lot of basic drop back stuff.
I'd guess we've got more running plays than that in the pistol playbook, but I don't think we've used any more than that.
BTW...I think CPJ going heavier Pistol this year is a result of our QBs nagging him about doing more out of the shotgun. It helps that his most talented QB in 20 years played out of it in HS:
Apparently Vad played defense as well in HS...