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    Insight on the QB Situation

    Straight from the guy who decides these things:

    CPJ offers more insight on QB depth | Georgia Tech

    For the most part, he agrees with the majority of us. CPJ is going to find ways to put him in the game, but if the situation isn't right, Vad will be on the sideline. The more grasp he has of the offense, the more he'll play.

    Sounds like he definitely wants to play Vad, but he's not sure he can trust him 100% in big games.


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    Vad must be behind where Jaybo was as a true freshman. Paul used to talk about how much confidence he had in Jaybo to execute the offense as a true freshman.

    Nesbitt started as a 1st year player in this offense.. be curious to hear where Johnson thinks Lee is in his second year compared to where Nesbitt was in his first year.

    Lets face it, though.. coaches use the "he doesn't know (trial by fire) the offense well enough" BS as a reason to keep guys off the field..

    To a certain extent a player isn't gonna know until he is finally put into the game and he plays.. chicken and egg deal..

    Just from speaking with both it isn't difficult at all to say with strong conviction that Vad's IQ is in the neighborhood of 30 points higher than Nesbitt's.. I guess Paul thinks he is football dumb..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    Vad must be behind where Jaybo was as a true freshman. Paul used to talk about how much confidence he had in Jaybo to execute the offense as a true freshman.

    Nesbitt started as a 1st year player in this offense.. be curious to hear where Johnson thinks Lee is in his second year compared to where Nesbitt was in his first year.

    Lets face it, though.. coaches use the "he doesn't know (trial by fire) the offense well enough" BS as a reason to keep guys off the field..

    To a certain extent a player isn't gonna know until he is finally put into the game and he plays.. chicken and egg deal..

    Just from speaking with both it isn't difficult at all to say with strong conviction that Vad's IQ is in the neighborhood of 30 points higher than Nesbitt's.. I guess Paul thinks he is football dumb..
    Let's face it. Who was Nesbit's competition?
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    Haha...I'll take Vad over Jaybo every time Jim.

    Agree on Vad's IQ compared to Nesbitts but it is completely based on...looks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
    Vad must be behind where Jaybo was as a true freshman. Paul used to talk about how much confidence he had in Jaybo to execute the offense as a true freshman.

    Nesbitt started as a 1st year player in this offense.. be curious to hear where Johnson thinks Lee is in his second year compared to where Nesbitt was in his first year.

    Lets face it, though.. coaches use the "he doesn't know (trial by fire) the offense well enough" BS as a reason to keep guys off the field..

    To a certain extent a player isn't gonna know until he is finally put into the game and he plays.. chicken and egg deal..

    Just from speaking with both it isn't difficult at all to say with strong conviction that Vad's IQ is in the neighborhood of 30 points higher than Nesbitt's.. I guess Paul thinks he is football dumb..
    We've discussed this before.

    The difference between the Nesbitt/Shaw situation and the Washington/Lee situation has to do with circumstances. I don't think anyone doubts that Jaybo knew the offense better than Josh in CPJ's first year, but Josh had an overwhelming athletic/speed/power advantage over Jaybo that in the long run living with the short term growing pains was worth it. Keep in mind, Josh also had NFL caliber skill guys to help him out in 2008. CPJ's plan to live through the growing pains early with a QB with a higher ceiling and lean on NFL quality skill players payed off...he won the ACC the next year, and Josh was a monster that season.

    With Tevin and Vad, you have a guy (Washington) who knows the offense inside and out, and a guy (Lee) who probably is the most talented QB CPJ has had since he's been at GT but doesn't know the offense quite that well. We don't have any NFL caliber skill guys to lean on ala Nesbitt in 2008, so CPJ is going to go with the guy that can execute the most plays out of the playbook. CPJ also understands he has a better defense this year, so if Tevin plays within himself and with a little improvement from last year (which he has so far), GT will still win 8-10 games this season...and possibly the ACC. CPJ doesn't need to throw Lee to wolves like he did with Nesbitt in 2008...he can bring him along slowly and put him in situations to build his confidence. If you look at it objectively, Vad had two REALLY great plays against a low level team, but he still hasn't proven he can do it against the "big boys". CPJ has intimated Vad will get the chance, but I think he's smart enough to know that he would do Vad more harm than good if he doesn't put him in spots to succeed.

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    Nesbitt had no real competition in 08. Jaybo wasn't physically ready, then you had Calvin Booker for goodness sakes. I think CPJ knows Vad could do just as good as Nesbitt from 08 but he also knows that Tevin will make fewer mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongforDodd View Post
    Let's face it. Who was Nesbit's competition?
    Roger that and lets face it Lee who is a good athlete didnt run this offense in high school and it will take time for him to learn it.I see him in passing situations and I hate that since we are tell ing the world we are going to pass,but at least he will be getting playing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGT View Post
    We've discussed this before.
    CPJ might say something like "Last time I checked we are the 'Georgia Tech' Yellow Jackets. The scoreboard says 'Georgia Tech,' not 'Star Quarterback' or 'Vad Lee.' We want to win every game, we try to win every game, and that means putting the best 'Georgia Tech' on the field to win the game, not the players with the best upside that might win next year."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Philly View Post
    CPJ might say something like "Last time I checked we are the 'Georgia Tech' Yellow Jackets. The scoreboard says 'Georgia Tech,' not 'Star Quarterback' or 'Vad Lee.' We want to win every game, we try to win every game, and that means putting the best 'Georgia Tech' on the field to win the game, not the players with the best upside that might win next year."
    When you say "we" you must mean the crazy fanbase on message boards, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    Haha...I'll take Vad over Jaybo every time Jim.

    Agree on Vad's IQ compared to Nesbitts but it is completely based on...looks?
    That smarts. And maybe it is true.

 

 
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