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CPJ needs to go to Statesboro and consult with Monken

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    Having it and using it are completely different things.


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    I'm not as versed as other posters on the intricacies of blocking schemes and running the same plays out of different packages, but I know this much: GSU's offense is a joy to watch, and it's rare that their guys blow their assignments and get knocked off the ball. The first part is a matter of personal preference, but the second part comes down to coaching and personnel.

    Although I like watching offenses with multiple sets and formations, I tend to think it's overrated compared to execution. My problem is we weren't even executing on Monday. After the entirety of the summer and fall camp, we should have been MUCH better prepared for that game. Blocking is a fundamental part of football, and we were horrendous...especially on the perimeter. The interior of our line looked like they never played a down of college football at certain times. There were multiple times the DL would wait for the OL to commit to their cut blocks and would just run around it while our O-linemen went straight to the ground untouched. ESPN highlighted that a few times. That should not be happening anymore in year 5 of this regime with "their" guys.

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    ^ Yes, our offensive players should be able to read the minds of the guys they're trying to block, and never whiff as a result.

    As I've said before, anybody can understand their blocking assignment on paper; performing it effectively is entirely different.

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    Maybe if we had the academic requirements in Statesboro, we'd see a little different caliber of athlete at GT? Just a thought. (big eye roll guy goes here - our smiley guys stink, Jim)
    "Stars don't mean everything." -Helluva 8/8/13

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    Quote Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside View Post
    Maybe if we had the academic requirements in Statesboro, we'd see a little different caliber of athlete at GT? Just a thought. (big eye roll guy goes here - our smiley guys stink, Jim)
    the rub isn't with the athletes but with the formations and evolution of the offense while other programs aren't shy to mix it up.

    no one can convinced me southern conference teams have better athletes/ability to expand their backfield formations and we can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pckl300 View Post
    ^ Yes, our offensive players should be able to read the minds of the guys they're trying to block, and never whiff as a result.

    As I've said before, anybody can understand their blocking assignment on paper; performing it effectively is entirely different.
    I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but do you even understand football? Your argument is the summation of bad coaching.

    You don't have to read anyone's mind to be able to put a hand on them, or to atleast offer some type of resistence...especially on the interior where OL and DL have less space to negotiate. It's one thing to sustain a block or get your man on the ground (sometimes the better talent just wins), it's a different matter when you miss entirely and you're blocking air.

    If guys can't process their blocking assignment and apply it on the field, they either shouldn't be out on the field or they've been coached badly. How many hundreds or thousands of reps do they take during practices and camps? You think they would have it figured out by now or atleast know enough to get in the way.

    You know who agrees with me? Paul Johnson:

    Johnson: ‘A lot that I saw that I didn’t like’ | Georgia Tech

    Speaking Wednesday at his weekly news conference, Johnson also didn’t show much enthusiasm about the special teams, noting that two punts were nearly blocked. Following practice, offensive line coach Mike Sewak said he was disappointed with the offensive line and defensive coordinator Al Groh offered that the defense’s play “was O.K., but it wasn’t good enough.”

    Johnson accepted responsibility with his staff.

    “My take on [coaching] is, if one or two guys is not doing what you’d like, then they’ve got an issue,” he said. “If it’s more than one or two guys, then we’ve got an issue. We’ve got to work and make sure we help those guys play better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaMGTmjr View Post
    They run more formations and plays than we do.
    I would dare say we run more pass plays than GSU. Did you see how many passes GSU completed last week? How about Shaw last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoldandwhite View Post
    I would dare say we run more pass plays than GSU. Did you see how many passes GSU completed last week? How about Shaw last year?
    We had 15 passing attempt against VT, and a passing TD put us ahead with 44 seconds left in the game. I was happy with our passing game last Monday. (Except for the obvious one pass...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoldandwhite View Post
    I would dare say we run more pass plays than GSU. Did you see how many passes GSU completed last week? How about Shaw last year?
    that just depends on the game situation and team, really. there is no set # for CPJ or CJM. it's more situational for both, you know? if either of them can put up a W without airing it out they certainly will. southern really didn't need to throw one pass this past saturday if they didn't want to. i wish we'd thrown more and earlier!

    this past weekend for southern's not a very good barometer, either. they ran out four different QBs saturday including one true freshman. their starter didn't complete a pass but he only threw five balls and all were deep verticals and two dropped. he didn't throw any short routes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGT View Post
    We had 15 passing attempt against VT, and a passing TD put us ahead with 44 seconds left in the game. I was happy with our passing game last Monday. (Except for the obvious one pass...)
    i've harped on our inability to keep a D honest by airing it out. i just wonder why we didn't try the pistol earlier and pass more then? we certainly can't guess what might have happened, but maybe--just maybe, we could have softened up their run defense if we'd burned them through the air a few times. and, i'm not talking about those dinky bubble screens. throw some slants, some outs, go vertical. yeah, it might not have worked but, geez, at least we tried.

 

 
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