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This is a discussion on Recruiting Games within the Georgia Tech Football forums, part of the Georgia Tech Sports Message Boards category; If you guys want to see the stuff GT coaches (as well as coaches at other schools) have to deal ...

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    Recruiting Games

    If you guys want to see the stuff GT coaches (as well as coaches at other schools) have to deal with, read what Dalvin Tomlinson's coach had to say about Dalvin's recruiting process. A lot of what he says is counter to what he said in previous interviews before DT committed.

    Dalvin Tomlinson’s connection to Alabama ‘grayshirt scandal’ | AJC College Sports Recruiting

    “From day one, Dalvin was going to Alabama. He kept delaying and everything, and it got kind of close with the scholarship numbers. But Nick wanted Dalvin from day one. He was Nick’s boy. Coach Saban fell in love with him a long time ago. Alabama never waived on that kid. There was no ‘grayshirt’ mention with Dalvin whatsoever by Alabama. All that other stuff is rumor and speculation … Dalvin always had a scholarship at Alabama. That thing that happened over at North Atlanta [Justin Taylor], that wasn’t the same thing here. Dalvin always had a a scholarship to Alabama.”

    Apparently, according to his coach, we were also "playing games" with DT:

    Did Georgia Tech and UGA play games with Dalvin?

    “It was more Georgia Tech than Georgia. Dalvin wasn’t upfront with Coach Speed until right before the dead period. Coach Speed just thought the numbers didn’t look good at Alabama and that they were holding a spot for him at Georgia Tech."

    Huh? Doesn't make sense to me...whatever...


    Don't know if you guys have heard CPJ, but he always says every year that you shouldn't believe everything you hear and read. In this case, I really believed GT was just used as leverage to gain an offer he really wanted...DT's coach flat out said that DT didn't want to go to any other school beside Alabama "from day one". I will say this, and you be the judge: The timing of DT making his taped commit announcement happened AFTER a 5 star DL decided NOT to take his official to 'Bama (he ended up signing with Rutgers)...it also happens to coincide with DT "being happy" that it was all over with:

    Dalvin Tomlinson has made the decision — Is it Georgia Tech, Alabama or UGA? | AJC College Sports Recruiting

    I will say this for the staff, they put up with crap that most of us probably wouldn't.


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    The question that was answered, but not asked, was "Did DT play games with Georgia Tech and UGA?" The coaches answer to that question is an overwhelming YES! While I know the recruiting process is tough for these kids, DT used GT, effectively lied to Coach Speed (committed to Bama on the 16th, but didn't tell Speed until just before the dead period, which gives no time for another prospect), and frankly he's right where he belongs with the unethical, all for yourself, lying, and smarmy Nick Saban...a perfectly matched pair. CPJ does things the right way; it's a nasty business. Character shows up in the 4th quarter. This guy is not a character player, so in spite of his talent, the team is better off without him.

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    +1. Saban's lying ways will catch up to him in the long run. High character kids will be leery of him and low character kids will flock to him. The silver lining in our academic roadblocks is that it weeds out some undesirables before we even realize they are undesirable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGT View Post
    II will say this for the staff, they put up with crap that most of us probably wouldn't.
    nooooo, AllGT!!! you've got it all backwards. according to certain media types and some on this forum, CPJ is and always will be the bad guy and should simply take it in the junk from any/all HS kids who don't mind leaving our program in a bind. stop being so objective and sensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-son-sir View Post
    +1. Saban's lying ways will catch up to him in the long run. High character kids will be leery of him and low character kids will flock to him. The silver lining in our academic roadblocks is that it weeds out some undesirables before we even realize they are undesirable.
    I think we all want to think that, but the unfortunate reality is that our world, from sports to corporate America to politics, not excluding religion and charities, is filled with people such as Saban and John Calipari. I think Johnson and GT will keep it clean and aboveboard. Odds are that Saban et al will continue to get the 5-stars, though, and are far more likely to win NCs than Tech. (I mean, look at Tressel: booted out, bought out with lots of cash, landed on his feet in an administrative job that is sure to be transitional until another major university feels it is safe to hire him to coach.) Doesn't keep me from hoping you are right.

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    The funny thing is that we all thought this kid was a high character, academic first kind of guy. I think we all got played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious View Post
    I think we all want to think that, but the unfortunate reality is that our world, from sports to corporate America to politics, not excluding religion and charities, is filled with people such as Saban and John Calipari. I think Johnson and GT will keep it clean and aboveboard. Odds are that Saban et al will continue to get the 5-stars, though, and are far more likely to win NCs than Tech. (I mean, look at Tressel: booted out, bought out with lots of cash, landed on his feet in an administrative job that is sure to be transitional until another major university feels it is safe to hire him to coach.) Doesn't keep me from hoping you are right.
    i agree. the "factory" programs are bigger than the sport as a whole and they're gonna continue to push the moral/tasteful envelope to the outer edges. programs like our's can sleep well at night knowing we're trying to do the right thing but, sadly, this isn't an environment where the "nice guy" is gonna come out on top under present circumstances.

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    I'm kinda tired of the recruiting BS in general. I tend to think we're one of the more up-and-up programs in the country, which is something to be proud of at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside View Post
    The funny thing is that we all thought this kid was a high character, academic first kind of guy. I think we all got played.
    maybe he IS the smart one in all this? if he truly wanted bama all along but was sweating an offer, what better way to keep saban's attention than attending the hell outta our games this year? keep his name up in the air and "wanted". play us like a fiddle in the process. then again, that's a lot of time and effort for such a ploy! you'd really have to plot to go to such lengths, IMO.

    i think this BS about him being "nick's boy" all along is total garbage. that's most likely dalvin's coach trying to keep him from being mixed in with all this mess on NSD with bama's recruits being waylayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious View Post
    I think we all want to think that, but the unfortunate reality is that our world, from sports to corporate America to politics, not excluding religion and charities, is filled with people such as Saban and John Calipari. I think Johnson and GT will keep it clean and aboveboard. Odds are that Saban et al will continue to get the 5-stars, though, and are far more likely to win NCs than Tech. (I mean, look at Tressel: booted out, bought out with lots of cash, landed on his feet in an administrative job that is sure to be transitional until another major university feels it is safe to hire him to coach.) Doesn't keep me from hoping you are right.

    I think there's a 5 year "show cause" attached to any school that wants to hire Tressel in any kind of sports capacity, essentially banning him from athletics for 5 years, and therefore retiring him early. The only profession I know of (besides a wall street job) where you can do this sort of thing, and still end up well-off afterwards.

 

 
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