• What Broke Georgia Tech's Momentum?

    I know most of us want to talk about issues surrounding the future of the Georgia Tech football program right now, or characterize what state we are in. However, I am offering a few observations about what happened before the clock went to zeroes. Nothing more.

    Obviously we let this one get away from us. Personally, I felt in the early going that this game was set right up for us. All of the things I felt needed to happen to come out with a win were happening.

    During the initial drives, we were moving very efficiently on offense. The timing was fast and crisp, the reads were great and the ball was getting to the perimeter. Vad was playing with a lot of confidence. UM scored quickly to answer (not all bad), and their defense had to go right back out. They were gassed.

    We kept the pedal to the metal. They had a couple sad TOs ( I was banking on a few unforced mistakes from Da U) and we were in perfect position to gain separation on the scoreboard. I was expecting them to score efficiently, but also that we would chew a ton of clock and keep scoring to maintain the lead, while minutes went off the clock and possessions for UM would be kept to a minimum.

    Then.......... Vad fumbled the football. It was like superman swallowed a spoonful of Kryptonite. From that point on, everything changed. He became more hesitant and the offense slowed down. He never really got his mojo back.

    In retrospect, putting Justin Thomas in at that point in time was probably the worst thing that could have happened. JT did fine in his series, it wasn't that. It is just that , IMHO, that wait on the sideline iced Vad a little and probably got him thinking. He was never really the same after that. CPJ may have painted himself into a corner a little there with his public comments about JT playing. He was probably scheduled to get that series anyway, but I am convinced it affected Vad's performance. Hindsight is always 20/20, but just maybe, putting Vad right back in the next series and getting him going would have been the better call to get him past the fumble. I was in support of JT getting a series or two in the game and I am glad he did. The timing was just bad, that is all.

    I have been saying for a while now that our DL was still an issue that had yet to be exposed. Well, now they have been exposed. It is plain to see what an offense, who has weapons, can do when facing an under-talented DL. They ran at will, as we couldn't get off blocks. When we committed reinforcements to the run, they burned us with a speedy core of receivers. I knew it was coming at some point. You just can't build a sturdy house on a bad foundation. It doesn't matter how good the roof and shingles are.

    The sad part is, if we could have just kept driving and putting up points, they wouldn't have been able to catch us. The lead was established. We just needed to hold serve.

    Miami is one of the elite teams in the country, talent and speed-wise, and frankly, it showed. We are a fast defense, if not physical. Their speed on O negated our ability to offset our weakness at DL, with speed. This is the first game we were truly STRETCHED. Fortunately, we will not be facing these kind of athletes every week. IMHO, UM and UGAg present a similar challenge, except that the Pups don't appear to be as mistake prone.
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    1. Boomergump's Avatar
      Boomergump -
      You can view the article page at Georgia Tech Football News - What Broke Georgia Tech's Momentum?
    1. mack's Avatar
      mack -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jeagt View Post
      Really? You think Miami are a bunch of under achievers and they're only winning because Al Golden is such a great coach? They may be an 8-4 team but it's not because they don't have elite talent.
      I agree with you and teams like that will turn it over but its clear Golden has their attention and the are not the thugs they used to be.......man do they have talent and plenty of it.
    1. stonedwall's Avatar
      stonedwall -
      Quote Originally Posted by Atllove View Post
      I dont see this love of CPJ thing. He a smug pompous coach whose underachieving at GT, alienated Tech from the local media, and screams on his players on the sidelines. Time to move on.
      he's not the only coach that gets fired up. but, it sure doesn't play well when you're losing. when you win, you can act any way you want. i guarantee you go back to '09 on this forum and there's hardly a peep about CPJ's demeanor. i do agree his ire is starting to look more like a tantrum. not good.
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Quote Originally Posted by Boomergump View Post
      Sometimes I really miss the USMC. If I had to be away and watch a game like that, I would want to be right where you were.
      It is the best experience to be able to talk to these "kids" who are 24-27 and so pumped up about everything. They will fight and do whatever is ordered of them without hesitation. As you know, "Mission First" is a key tenet. It is hard to maintain in these politically correct days. But these kids are living the dream.

      One other idea is that the vast majority of CFB fans are in the same boat as we are - their teams can't compete against the big boys due to recruiting disparities. We have seen that at the service academies since the 60s. I had an interesting conversation with an Iowa State grad. Of course he'd like his team to do better, but IIWII. Think the UNC fans are happy lately?
    1. LibertyTurns's Avatar
      LibertyTurns -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ga Tech Navy Nuke View Post
      I spent the day in a Pacific Beach bar with a bunch of Navy and Marine Corp aviators.
      What bar were you hanging out at? There's a lot of women in PB that don't like to wear underwear & I'm sure if you were with a bunch of brown shoes you surrounded by them. I've found that makes it hard to concentrate if you're trying to watch a game. Hope you didn't have the misfortune of seeing the dude wearing the banana hammock rollerblading back and forth on the cement boardwalk.

      I hope we don't kneejerk ourselves into a really dumb decision. My gut says The Hill doesn't give a crap enough about football to make a change. Unless we change the strategic landscape, a change of coaches isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. It's just going to cost the price of a buyout and another 4-5 years scratching our collective asses wondering why the latest fad didn't pan out. We need real change, not the lip service crap we always get.
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Quote Originally Posted by LibertyTurns View Post
      What bar were you hanging out at? There's a lot of women in PB that don't like to wear underwear & I'm sure if you were with a bunch of brown shoes you surrounded by them. I've found that makes it hard to concentrate if you're trying to watch a game. Hope you didn't have the misfortune of seeing the dude wearing the banana hammock rollerblading back and forth on the cement boardwalk.

      I hope we don't kneejerk ourselves into a really dumb decision. My gut says The Hill doesn't give a crap enough about football to make a change. Unless we change the strategic landscape, a change of coaches isn't going to amount to a hill of beans. It's just going to cost the price of a buyout and another 4-5 years scratching our collective asses wondering why the latest fad didn't pan out. We need real change, not the lip service crap we always get.
      Shore Club. It was totally packed from noon when we got there till 8 when we left. The women trolling for aviators was impressive and I could watch the board walk in addition to all the games. After extensive market research, I have concluded that the highest percentage of athletic, fit and curvaceous young women are in San Diego as compared to any city I have been in the US.

      I was thinking about starting a thread on the hypothetical advantages of when to change coaches. Do it at end of contract, 1 year or 2 years in advance. No matter what you do, there will be a 4-5 year disruption of the recruiting.
    1. Big Philly's Avatar
      Big Philly -
      I didn't like putting in JT after Vad fumbled. It's really at odds with what CPJ said after Vad threw the pick-six in the UNC game last year and he put him right back in.

      Johnson spent some time talking about Lee, in particular his response to the interception returned for a touchdown on the first play of the fourth quarter. Johnson said that pulling Lee at that point was not an option and would be “the worst thing you could have done. I mean, he’s got to go back out there and right the ship. And that’s what he did. He got back out there and drove the team down. That’ll probably help his development more than anything you could ever say or do.”
    1. dressedcheeseside's Avatar
      dressedcheeseside -
      It didn't work out. He tried to spark the team and it backfired. Had it worked, it would have been seen as a genius move.
    1. Animal's Avatar
      Animal -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ga Tech Navy Nuke View Post
      It is the best experience to be able to talk to these "kids" who are 24-27 and so pumped up about everything. They will fight and do whatever is ordered of them without hesitation. As you know, "Mission First" is a key tenet. It is hard to maintain in these politically correct days. But these kids are living the dream.

      One other idea is that the vast majority of CFB fans are in the same boat as we are - their teams can't compete against the big boys due to recruiting disparities. We have seen that at the service academies since the 60s. I had an interesting conversation with an Iowa State grad. Of course he'd like his team to do better, but IIWII. Think the UNC fans are happy lately?
      I have questioned before - how long will the rest of the FBS schools put up with the SEC shenanigans before they move to level the playing field?

      I think one good suggestion is the permanence of the scholarship.....once it is given, the school and not get it back for 4 years, regardless of injury, leaving early, failing out, getting arrested etc. etc.
    1. HelluvaMGTmjr's Avatar
      HelluvaMGTmjr -
      Quote Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside View Post
      It didn't work out. He tried to spark the team and it backfired. Had it worked, it would have been seen as a genius move.
      Spark the team? You mean the team that had scored on 3 consecutive possessions prior to the fumble? Seems to me we were moving the ball just fine up until the fumble. Why mess up a good thing? Why even risk messing with Vad's head and confidence?

      It's history so oh well.
    1. RamblinWreck92's Avatar
      RamblinWreck92 -
      Quote Originally Posted by dressedcheeseside View Post
      It didn't work out. He tried to spark the team and it backfired. Had it worked, it would have been seen as a genius move.

      something he hasn't had in years.
    1. GA TECH's Avatar
      GA TECH -
      Quote Originally Posted by Atllove View Post
      I dont see this love of CPJ thing. He a smug pompous coach whose underachieving at GT, alienated Tech from the local media, and screams on his players on the sidelines. Time to move on.

      As far as Miami, they get past VT and they're in the Top 10 in thr polls going to FSU. Clemson, FSU, Miami are pulling away from us and the rest of the ACC the window for GT is closing. Add Louiseville next year and you have the dominant programs for the conference.
      Give this man a cigar!
      Right on target
      cpj is a jack-hole (this is a combination of a jack-asss and an asss-hole)--maybe dressedcheeseside would like to use this line in his posts as a re-occuring quote
    1. Herbee's Avatar
      Herbee -
      I kinda think the coin toss was the turning point
    1. Boomergump's Avatar
      Boomergump -
      Quote Originally Posted by Herbee View Post
      I kinda think the coin toss was the turning point
      Really? We were up 17-7 and driving with the ball in Q2 having owned the clock in Q1. We were in a 17-17 tie with 2 minutes left in Q3. We were an XP away from a tie with 6 minutes left in the game. You think the turning point was the coin toss? I guess I am hoping it was sarcasm.