• The Drunk at Georgia Tech Football Games

    Over the years you go to Georgia Tech football games and live and die with your team. Win, lose or draw you support the Jackets and wear your white and gold.

    Every now and then you have an annoying drunk sitting next to you, who yells all sorts of ridiculously stupid things during the game. He wants to fire the coach three games after he's been hired, he wants the back-up QB by the second quarter of every game GT is losing, and he hates the uniforms.

    But the most annoying thing about that drunk sitting next to you, is that he wants to go for it on nearly every fourth down. Even when it doesn't make sense to go for it on fourth down, the drunk wants to go. Even when the defense is playing well and keeping the team in the game and the offense is struggling mightily, the drunk wants to go.

    Well, last night, with the Jackets down 17-10, on their own 33-yard line, with 8 minutes left, and facing 4th and 2, that drunk wasn't sitting next to you, he was down there on the field coaching the Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket football team. Johnson went for if on fourth down and failed, fortunately the Virginia Tech kicker bailed him out by missing a gimme field goal.

    Paul Johnson may have been sober as a judge last night, but he made every drunk in the stands last night happy as if they found free meal coupons to Waffle House stuck under their windshield wipers after the game.
    Comments 9 Comments
    1. Confederatebuzz's Avatar
      Confederatebuzz -
      He needs to go talk to his buddy Mike Smith, who wants to kick every FG under 20 yards possible.
    1. CrackerJacket's Avatar
      CrackerJacket -
      This can't be. I haven't been to a game in several years.
    1. stingemyall's Avatar
      stingemyall -
      Paul does make a lot of off the cuff decisions and last night was no exception.Remember him doing a similar thing against LSU in the Chik-Fil-A bowl a few years back? It did not come back to bite us but should have. Hell Jim, what if we had converted...still not a sound decision and what's worse is if we had marched down for a tying TD there probably would have still been enough time on the clock for the classic last minute defensive meltdown we have come to know.
    1. Jim Hart's Avatar
      Jim Hart -
      Quote Originally Posted by stingemyall View Post
      Paul does make a lot of off the cuff decisions and last night was no exception.Remember him doing a similar thing against LSU in the Chik-Fil-A bowl a few years back? It did not come back to bite us but should have. Hell Jim, what if we had converted...still not a sound decision and what's worse is if we had marched down for a tying TD there probably would have still been enough time on the clock for the classic last minute defensive meltdown we have come to know.
      sting, I think we all wondered what the heck he was doing and thought it was a bad move before the play was snapped. Pure insanity.
    1. yellojello's Avatar
      yellojello -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hart View Post
      sting, I think we all wondered what the heck he was doing and thought it was a bad move before the play was snapped. Pure insanity.
      I wasn't able to log onto the site during the game. But I swear, I wanted to kill PJ when he decided to go for it on 4th down. Would an O that hasn't been able to do squat all night have a high chance of making it? Even if there was a high chance, would you want to put yourself out of the game by making it a two score game and handing it to the other team on a platter? Ridiculous decision. Atleast he had the humility to admit as much in his presser. But man, was I pissed.
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Jim, I of course am glad that CPJ went for it. As I said last year for quite a while, "Go big or go home." It comes down to the style with which you play. But let's put the aesthetics and emotion aside.

      It was fourth and 2. We averaged 3.07 yards per rush against VT. The probability was that we should make 2 yards. That would give us a fresh set of downs and momentum to build on. We needed that momentum. Not going for the first down only put off the day of reckoning' I'd rather take a shot on 4th & 2 with 8 minutes than get the ball back deep with a couple of minutes to go.

      Neither choice was good, since we hadn't done much all night. The chance of scoring was less than anyone would have liked; we had only scored twice all game, a long field goal after getting to the 20 and being pushed back and also an ugly TD drive that we got only because of a 3rd down interference in the end zone. So we needed time and an increase in momentum to get going. Being home field, we certainly had the crowd.

      Also, VTs FG kickers are truly awful. I watched one miss two 30 or so yard FGs in an earlier VT game. That was a possibility. VT has kicked 3 of 9 FG attempts all year. That's right 33%.

      I think if you played this out a bunch of times on a video game we lose most of the time in either case of going for it or punting. But by going for it we win more often than if we don't.
    1. yellojello's Avatar
      yellojello -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ga Tech Navy Nuke View Post
      Jim, I of course am glad that CPJ went for it. As I said last year for quite a while, "Go big or go home." It comes down to the style with which you play. But let's put the aesthetics and emotion aside.

      It was fourth and 2. We averaged 3.07 yards per rush against VT. The probability was that we should make 2 yards. That would give us a fresh set of downs and momentum to build on. We needed that momentum. Not going for the first down only put off the day of reckoning' I'd rather take a shot on 4th & 2 with 8 minutes than get the ball back deep with a couple of minutes to go.

      Neither choice was good, since we hadn't done much all night. The chance of scoring was less than anyone would have liked; we had only scored twice all game, a long field goal after getting to the 20 and being pushed back and also an ugly TD drive that we got only because of a 3rd down interference in the end zone. So we needed time and an increase in momentum to get going. Being home field, we certainly had the crowd.

      Also, VTs FG kickers are truly awful. I watched one miss two 30 or so yard FGs in an earlier VT game. That was a possibility. VT has kicked 3 of 9 FG attempts all year. That's right 33%.

      I think if you played this out a bunch of times on a video game we lose most of the time in either case of going for it or punting. But by going for it we win more often than if we don't.
      Come on, Navy. The average rush is 3.07 yards because of big plays.

      So, here is the breakdown. We had 42 rush attempts for 129 yards. Of these around 22 went for 2yds or more. That is 0.52 probability. In my mind that would be an acceptable probability if the D had not been playing well. But the D had been playing well and held VT to 3 points the entire half. The FG actually came of a short field where we basically punted from our 10yd line. So with that kind of a defensive performance, why on earth would you go for it with 8 minutes to go and basically hand them a two score game on a platter?
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Quote Originally Posted by yellojello View Post
      Come on, Navy. The average rush is 3.07 yards because of big plays.

      So, here is the breakdown. We had 42 rush attempts for 129 yards. Of these around 22 went for 2yds or more. That is 0.52 probability. In my mind that would be an acceptable probability if the D had not been playing well. But the D had been playing well and held VT to 3 points the entire half. The FG actually came of a short field where we basically punted from our 10yd line. So with that kind of a defensive performance, why on earth would you go for it with 8 minutes to go and basically hand them a two score game on a platter?
      Thanks for going back and looking at the number >= 2 yards.

      The biggest reason to go for it is that we had a ~50% chance to make it. That would give us the potential for two more drives in the game. If we kick it away, we almost guarantee that we only have one drive to attempt to score...... and only if we held VT.

      Like I said, we were unlikely to win either way. For me, playing with mojo is better than going conservative. Jim calls it playing drunk, but I think it is just a more aggressive way to go and what won D2 NCs for CPJ.
    1. Fuzzy Bee's Avatar
      Fuzzy Bee -
      I think your logic is sound, Nuke. I agreed with the call to go for it. But why the heck did we have to run the ball right at Hopkins?