• Why Did Georgia Tech Beat North Carolina?

    Georgia Tech beat North Carolina 28-20 on Saturday after falling behind 20-7. How and why did it happen? Which GT players stepped up and which ones struggled?

    GT football analyst extraordinaire, Boomergump, shares his thoughts...

    I just sat down and watched every Georgia Tech offensive play (often repeatedly) with the action slowed down. As always, I see a lot of details that I totally miss following the ball on initial viewing. First of all, I want to give North Carolina head coach Larry Fedora a ton of credit for having his defensive guys ready to play the game and, in particular, Georgia Tech's offense.

    A lot was made about how they worked on defeating cut blocks getting ready, and while that appeared to be true, there were many other things that were evident. UNC did a great job messing with the option keys that Vad was trying to read. Their DEs were really good at faking the crash only to spring out at Vad after he kept.

    North Carolina's defensive players trusted their scheme and alignment and really didn't bite on motion. In doing so, they limited their exposure to counters and the like. They crossed charged OLBs some into the anticipated BB gap, but we have seen a lot of that before.

    Carolina's alignment was pretty basic and similar to Duke. They had their 4 downs and 3 LBs (one looked like a 3rd safety really) playing about 3 yards back in an umbrella that was slightly shifted to the field side. Most often, the field side LB (safety) was well outside the DT and closer to the LOS. The safety depth was usually about 8 yards, which we see a lot, but they varied a good bit, usually according to down and distance. The Tar Heels really didn't vary this alignment much, beyond cheating the LBs up into gaps in an attempt to dictate. This is something Duke didn't really do.

    It was interesting, inside the 5 yardline, they were all keyed in on the QB follow. They studied our tendencies, obviously, and basically ignored the dive, while crashing on Vad. It worked to a great degree. Finally, we resorted to dives and QB sneaks to punch it in.

    On offense, the Jackets were bound and determined to run the option yesterday. Our splits were back out wide most of the time between the OLs. We ran a great deal of mid-line option, as a part of the scheme, probably as much as any other play. I am really glad to see it return as a prominent play in our arsenal, assuming that we can run it a little better than yesterday.

    We were effective, at times, with the play, but didn't always read it or block it correctly. We didn't run a lot of misdirection either. There was a lot of load option and straight up TO, with some zone blocked dives too. With the wider splits, as expected, pass protection was a little harder to maintain. The Diamond and Pistol, were pretty much just window dressing in this week's game plan. I don't know if weather played a factor in CPJs thinking, or not.

    In general, when we read plays correctly, like magic, they were successful most of the time. As the game went on, Vad got some pitches out early and gave the kids some space to work with. UNC took some risks and blew a few plays up, but most of the breakdowns were on us.

    Upon initial viewing, I felt that our OL was really struggling and getting whipped early in the game. Watching in slo-mo revealed that this really wasn't true, for the majority of plays. In the first two series Vad missed a bunch of option reads, that frankly, looked pretty obvious. When you turn the DE loose in the standard TO blocking scheme, you best not hand it to the guy he is crashing on. He did that a couple times. When that happens, it looks like you are getting whipped, when you are not. During this phase of the game, I also think we screwed up some blocking calls on the interior causing a LB to be totally unaccounted for. There were also some pretty sloppy execution errors that I will get into a little later as I critique the position groups.

    Starting with the QB, I am just going to say it, Vad played poorly and he is very very fortunate not to have cost us the game. As we have come to expect, he made some huge plays and some really nice throws that got us over the hump. That hump I speak of, however, was created by himself much of the time. Vad was often hesitant and indecisive, causing him to try and recklessly salvage plays with some extremely high risk maneuvers, that really had no potential for payoff. If you miss a read, fine, just go ahead with the rest of the play decisively and get what you can. He almost looked like he wanted to stop and fix the read some of the time. He was sloppy with the ball and totally mismanaged half of what we were trying to do.

    Still, you have to love the kid, because he is a fiery and passionate leader, with a great skill set. He can play way better and he will. In the film session, that is probably going on right now. I can promise you he is getting hammered and his grade on the read portion of his critique will be a good bit below par. He also regressed in other areas as well, throwing off his back foot and using sloppy footwork, while rushing some throws, when he had more time than he thought. For most of his incompletions, his body was not aligned with his throws and he was off balance. He looked like he was past this issue his first two games of the season.

    The ABs were a sad bunch Saturday, with the exception of Mr. Reliable, Robbie Godhigh. The UNC game looked as futile as it did, partially due to the fact that we didn't get the edge blocked nearly as effectively as we have been. Not only that, but, over and over, the AB carrying the ball just decided to run on the wrong side of the block, for whatever reason. It was like there was some virus spreading throughout the position group. There is a lot of blame to go around, but Bostic had an especially poor day, whether carrying, or blocking. UNC may have had something to do with it, but it was mostly on us. Give Robbie Godhigh some credit. On film, even in slo-mo, he looks hemmed in like he is destined to go nowhere, and he jukes, dips, or spins his way to a huge first down conversion. I don't know how he does it and I don't want to know, I am just glad he does.

    Sims played a huge game. He was money when he wasn't jostling the ball around for no apparent reason at the goal line. He blocked well in pass protection and when ahead on the load option. When his team needed him most, inside the Red Zone and on the last drive trying to kill clock, Sims really ran hard. His pad level was so low, at times defenders really couldn't put a lick on him and he powered his way to crucial first downs. This was his finest hour, if you ask me.

    I like what I saw at WR yesterday, especially from Smelter. Things happen fast on the field, but when you slow the action down, you can see how he does some things, in an athletic sense, that our other kids don't. He controls his weight and balance extremely well.

    One play in particular, he is up in the air to receive a high throw. As he is receiving the ball, his body is already twisting in anticipation of his feet hitting the ground and making the pre-planned move that is already in his head. Most guys just concentrate on the ball and land kind of flat footed. Not this guy. He is a true YAC WR.

    There are a lot of really good receivers who have played in the NFL who were not that fast. Anquon Bolden (from FSU) comes to mind. I am starting to feel that Smelter could become one of those guys, if he continues to grow. He just has "it".

    Waller looked OK to me. He had a chance to get in front of a guy chasing RG (the eventual tackler #7) on a long gainer and block him, but couldn't get there. He made a couple of nice grabs and extended well for the TD. On that play, in slo-mo, he almost looked as if he was quitting on the route for a second. As I watched, I was saying to myself, what was he thinking. Still he made the catch. At this point in time I am still not convinced we have a hungry, passionate player, in Waller. There is just a little something in his body language that I just don't like. Maybe I am being too harsh?

    As I expected, our OL was superior to UNC's DL, believe it or not. We didn't always execute well on the interior, but when we put hat on hat, we got the best of them, everybody besides Chamberlain that is. I don't think Mr. Chamberlain is going to enjoy today's film session either. He just could not handle their DE (I think his number was 95, maybe 85). Bryan was fine blocking out in space, but at the point of attack he was ineffectual. He often found himself on the ground, whether zone blocking or in pass protection, with that DE past him making a play. That kid was very agile and quick. I have to give him credit. But Bryan has to be better than that.

    Beno had a play early in pass protection, where he just tripped over his own feet, letting his man in Vad's grill, looking pretty stupid in the process. Other than that, he was OK. We didn't win every one-on-one battle, but we got the best of them. UNC, especially late, after they were desperate, tried a lot of stunts and loading gaps with LBs to try and dictate a little bit. It was by far the biggest challenge our guys have faced to date and they did OK. I think, as a unit, they will see the film and clean some things up in terms of calls.

    Hope you enjoyed it. If you have something to add or challenge an observation, fire away.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: UNC Offensive Breakdown started by Boomergump View original post
    Comments 22 Comments
    1. Jim Hart's Avatar
      Jim Hart -
      Boomer, like you I follow the ball during the games, so I don't always know why or how things happened. Unlike you, I do not go back and watch the game in slow motion. I've got you to do that and am very appreciative of your efforts.

      Here's a gut reaction to what I saw yesterday and what you saw on the game film: Shouldn't Sims be expected to have a big game when the opponent is essentially double-teaming Vad? I mean, if the B-back doesn't have a big game when they are ignoring the B-back, we're really in trouble, aren't we?

      So congrats to Sims for the game that he had, but I don't know if it was his finest hour. UNC basically decided after looking at the film that they were going to disrespect Sims, since they decided he couldn't beat them. Right? Kudos to him for making them pay to a certain extent. But bottom line is that they played us pretty darn tough, so I think in that sense they won and I don't think he made them pay enough.

      Like to have you clarify something... Sims gained a lot more yards/carry yesterday than Laskey and had a lot bigger game. It seemed like when Sims got the ball there was space, when Laskey got the ball, he had defensive linemen in his face. Now that may just be the luck of the draw, sometimes a back has a day where he has daylight, other days there's no holes. But my question is this: was UNC playing Vad differently when Laskey was in the game, than when Sims was in the game? Or was it just coincidence that Sims got the holes in this game and Laskey didn't??

      I'm not taking anything away from Sims or trying to make a case that Laskey is better. I'm just curious if there was a reason why the DLs were in Laskey's jock when he got the ball and Sims had room. And no, I don't think Sims all of a sudden got that much better in a week. Or that Laskey forgot how to run the football. In reality I think they are very close, skill-wise. But if I was the defense coordinator playing Georgia Tech, I'd shade more towards Vad when Sims was in the game, than when Laskey was in the game, based on Laskey being a more productive runner. Some folks may disagree with me, but that is what I would do.

      Sims had only 99 yards yesterday, even with the defense leaning away from him. If defenses had leaned away from Jonathan Dwyer, he may have broken all the NCAA records. Seriously. If defenses are going to go after Vad and let Sims or Laskey get the ball, I think they both need to step up in a lot bigger way than they did on Saturday, if this is going to be a successful season.
    1. stonedwall's Avatar
      stonedwall -
      thanks, boomer!

      vad has a subpar to poor day and we still win against a well prepared, physical opponent. i'll take it. unlike past QB play, though, he got it done when we needed it. works for me.

      totally agree with the AB play as a whole. it was bad. besides robbie, it was as if our ABs demonstrated ZERO running back instincts, period. absolutely baffling to me.

      smelter's a weapon. use him! like you said, he's a competitor who has the "it" you like to see. as for waller, i agree. something about him just seems lackadaisical. though, i do give him credit for making the nice TD grab, he should have knocked that defender tailing robbie of his effin' block! instead, he just lollygagged beside him. WTF? he should have hit the afterburner and leveled the guy from the side--perfectly legal. he just doesn't seem hungry.
    1. Yukonwreck's Avatar
      Yukonwreck -
      Quote Originally Posted by Boomergump View Post
      I just sat down and watched every offensive play (often repeatedly) with the action slowed down. As always, I see a lot of details that I totally miss following the ball on initial viewing. First of all, I want to give Fedora a ton of credit for having his guys ready to play the game and, in particular, this offense. A lot was made about how they worked on defeating cut blocks getting ready, and while that appeared to be true, there were many other things that were evident. UNC did a great job messing with the option keys that Vad was trying to read. Their DEs were really good at faking the crash only to spring out at Vad after he kept. Their defensive players trusted their scheme and alignment and really didn't bite on motion. In doing so, they limited their exposure to counters and the like. They crossed charged OLBs some into the anticipated BB gap, but we have seen a lot of that before. Their alignment was pretty basic and similar to Duke. They had their 4 downs and 3 LBs (one looked like a 3rd safety really) playing about 3 yards back in an umbrella that was slightly shifted to the field side. Most often, the field side LB (safety) was well outside the DT and closer to the LOS. The safety depth was usually about 8 yards, which we see a lot, but they varied a good bit, usually according to down and distance. They really didn't vary this alignment much beyond cheating the LBs up into gaps in an attempt to dictate. This is something Duke didn't really do. It was interesting, inside the 5 YDL, they were all keyed in on the QB follow. They studied our tendencies, obviously, and basically ignored the dive while crashing on Vad. It worked to great degree. Finally we resorted to dives and QB sneaks to punch it in.

      On offense, we were bound and determined to run the option today. Our splits were back out wide most of the time between the OLs. We ran a great deal of mid-line option as a part of the scheme, probably as much as any other play. I am really glad to see it return as a prominent play in our arsenal, assuming that we can run it a little better than yesterday. We were effective, at times, with the play, but didn't always read it or block it correctly. We didn't run a lot of misdirection either. There was a lot of load option and straight up TO, with some zone blocked dives too. With the wider splits, as expected, pass protection was a little harder to maintain. The Diamond and Pistol, were pretty much just window dressing in this weeks game plan. I don't know if weather played a factor in CPJs thinking or not. In general, when we read plays correctly, like magic, they were successful most of the time. As the game went on Vad got some pitches out early and gave the kids some space to work with. UNC took some risks and blew a few plays up, but most of the breakdowns were on us.

      Upon initial viewing, I felt that our OL was really struggling and getting whipped early in the game. Watching in slo-mo revealed that this really wasn't true for the majority of plays. In the first two series Vad missed a bunch of option reads, that frankly, looked pretty obvious. When you turn the DE loose in the standard TO blocking scheme, you best not hand it to the guy he is crashing on. He did that a couple times. When that happens, it looks like you are getting whipped when you are not. During this phase of the game, I also think we screwed up some blocking calls on the interior causing a LB to be totally unaccounted for. There were also some pretty sloppy execution errors that I will get into a little later as I critique the position groups.

      Starting with the QB, I am just going to say it, Vad played poorly and he is very very fortunate not to have cost us the game. As we have come to expect, he made some huge plays and some really nice throws that got us over the hump. That hump I speak of, however, was created by himself much of the time. Vad was often hesitant and indecisive, causing him to try and recklessly salvage plays with some extremely high risk maneuvers that really had no potential for payoff. If you miss a read, fine, just go ahead with the rest of the play decisively and get what you can. He almost looked like he wanted to stop and fix the read some of the time. He was sloppy with the ball and totally mismanaged half of what we were trying to do. Still, you have to love the kid because he is a fiery and passionate leader with a great skill set. He can play way better and he will. In the film session, that is probably going on right now, I can promise you he is getting hammered and his grade on the read portion of his critique will be a good bit below par. He also regressed in other areas as well, throwing off his back foot and using sloppy footwork while rushing some throws when he had more time than he thought. For most of his incompletions, his body was not aligned with his throws and he was off balance. He looked like he was past this issue his first two games of the season.

      The ABs were a sad bunch Saturday, with the exception of Mr. Reliable, Robbie Godhigh. The UNC game looked as futile as it did, partially due to the fact that we didn't get the edge blocked nearly as effectively as we have been. Not only that, but, over and over, the AB carrying the ball just decided to run on the wrong side of the block for whatever reason. It was like there was some virus spreading throughout the position group. There is a lot of blame to go around, but Bostic had an especially poor day whether carrying or blocking. UNC may have had something to do with it, but it was mostly on us. Give RG some credit. On film, even in slo-mo, he looks hemmed in like he is destined to go nowhere, and he jukes, dips, or spins his way to a huge first down conversion. I don't know how he does it and I don't want to know. I am just glad he does.

      Sims played a huge game. He was money when he wasn't jostling the ball around for no apparent reason at the goal line. He blocked well in pass pro and when ahead on the load option. When his team needed him most, inside the RZ and on the last drive trying to kill clock, Sims really ran hard. His pad level was so low at times defenders really couldn't put a lick on him and he powered his way to crucial first downs. This was his finest hour if you ask me.

      I like what I saw at WR yesterday, especially from Smelter. Things happen fast on the field, but when you slow the action down you can see how he does some things, in an athletic sense that our other kids don't. He controls his weight and balance extremely well. One play in particular, he is up in the air to receive a high throw. As he is receiving the ball his body is already twisting in anticipation of his feet hitting the ground and making the pre-planned move that is already in his head. Most guys just concentrate on the ball and land kind of flat footed. Not this guy. He is a true YAC WR. There are a lot of really good receivers who have played in the NFL who were not that fast. Anquon Bolden (from FSU) comes to mind. I am starting to feel that Smelter could become one of those guys if he continues to grow. He just has "it". Waller looked OK to me. He had a chance to get in front of a guy chasing RG (the eventual tackler #7) on a long gainer and block him, but couldn't get there. He made a couple of nice grabs and extended well for the TD. On that play, in slo-mo, he almost looked as if he was quitting on the route for a second. As I watched I was saying to myself, what was he thinking. Still he made the catch. At this point in time I am still not convinced we have a hungry, passionate player in Waller. There is just a little something in his body language that I just don't like. Maybe I am being too harsh?

      As I expected, our OL was superior to UNC's DL, believe it or not. We didn't always execute well on the interior, but when we put hat on hat, we got the best of them, everybody besides Chamberlain that is. I don't think Mr. Chamberlain is going to enjoy today's film session either. He just could not handle their DE (I think his number was 95, maybe 85). Bryan was fine blocking out in space, but at the point of attack he was ineffectual. He often found himself on the ground, whether zone blocking or in pass protection, with that DE past him making a play. That kid was very agile and quick. I have to give him credit. But Bryan has to be better than that. Beno had a play early in pass protection where he just tripped over his own feet letting his man in Vad's grill, looking pretty stupid in the process. Other than that he was OK. We didn't win every one-on-one battle, but we got the best of them. UNC, especially late, after they were desperate, tried a lot of stunts and loading gaps with LBs to try and dictate a little bit. It was by far the biggest challenge our guys have faced to date and they did OK. I think, as a unit, they will see the film and clean some things up in terms of calls.

      Hope you enjoyed it. If you have something to add or challenge an observation, fire away.
      On my third re-viewing. Agree with you 100%. But we also knocked the crap out of them several times in the second half. On one play Ebron and Renner got the $hit knocked out of them. They started hearing footsteps in the secondary.
    1. dressedcheeseside's Avatar
      dressedcheeseside -
      Our defense is taking on the personality of it's DC and that's a good thing. I think they did the very same thing last year and it was a bad thing.
    1. Boomergump's Avatar
      Boomergump -
      Jim, I don't make a lot of Laskey's lack of production Saturday. He didn't get as many carries and it was probably the luck of the draw like you say. I do think UNC chose to stop VL running, especially in the red zone. I hesitate to take too much credit away from Sims' performance, especially how absolutely tough some of those runs looked, during the last drive in particular, when UNC had everybody up in every gap trying to stuff it. Those were some tough punishing runs where he got every yard you could hope for, and then some. Personally, I give him kudos. I think your opinion is closest to being true inside the 5. Sims definitely benefitted from UNCs preoccupation with Vad on those TD runs.
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Boomer, these are some of the greatest things on any site. Thanks.

      One question about Vad. Does fatigue seem to affect his decision making much? Although it is counter intuitive, it seems Vad starts slow but then calms down and makes better decisions. It could be he learns quick ......

      I was glad to hear that you thought our OL generally did well. My impression at the game was that our OL and DL generally won the battles. The OL is going to have it's hands full with VT. I would expect VT'd defense to do a lot of what UNC did, and be more successful unless Vad has better decision making.......
    1. longestday's Avatar
      longestday -
      Waller's TD reception route change was after the ball was thrown. He is running and adjusted to the ball, not the other way around. If he did not, the ball would have been behind him.

      Bostic on the other hand slowed down on his pass. You cannot see him in the TV version, but at the game got his step and slowed down.

      Over the shoulder receptions are difficult.
    1. Fuzzy Bee's Avatar
      Fuzzy Bee -
      Excellent work, Boomer, as we have come to expect from you.

      Don't be too hard on Beno and Chamberlain. Remember, they each recovered a fumble. Also, the OL contributed mightily to a first down even after Vad had been stopped (the one where they moved the pile three more yards to the marker...that was cool).

      Clock management struck me as an opportunity for improvement. We got the ball with about 5:30 left in the second quarter, down by 13. We seemed to take our own sweet time moving down the field. We finally scored on a pass from the 20 or 25 yard line with 30 seconds left. That's when I started breathing again. We were just moving too slowly for a while there.

      Then in the fourth quarter, we were death marching down the field. We could have driven for a superfluous score, or we could have just eaten clock. But for some reason, we snapped the ball with plenty of time left on the play clock. I didn't get that. Like the second quarter, it all turned out fine, but I just don't think we played it well. Am I missing something here?
    1. Ga Tech Navy Nuke's Avatar
      Ga Tech Navy Nuke -
      Fuzzy, I saw the same thing at the end of the game where we were trying to bleed clock but snapped with 20 seconds on the clock in the end zone. What I think happened is that the referee took a very long time to start the clock and Vad didn't pay enough attention to the clock but ran the play in about the same interval as he was used to running plays.

      I liked the pace at the end of the first half. We were close enough that we could take several shots with long passes if need be and still had a time out. Plus our "hurry up" has become much more effective this year. But if we hadn't gotten the game to within a score at half, I think we would have lost......
    1. Boomergump's Avatar
      Boomergump -
      Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bee View Post
      Excellent work, Boomer, as we have come to expect from you.

      Don't be too hard on Beno and Chamberlain. Remember, they each recovered a fumble. Also, the OL contributed mightily to a first down even after Vad had been stopped (the one where they moved the pile three more yards to the marker...that was cool).

      Clock management struck me as an opportunity for improvement. We got the ball with about 5:30 left in the second quarter, down by 13. We seemed to take our own sweet time moving down the field. We finally scored on a pass from the 20 or 25 yard line with 30 seconds left. That's when I started breathing again. We were just moving too slowly for a while there.

      Then in the fourth quarter, we were death marching down the field. We could have driven for a superfluous score, or we could have just eaten clock. But for some reason, we snapped the ball with plenty of time left on the play clock. I didn't get that. Like the second quarter, it all turned out fine, but I just don't think we played it well. Am I missing something here?
      Beno played quite well actually. I just had to make mention of his faux pax because it was actually pretty humorous (in hindsight anyway, now that the game is over). Chamberlain, did in fact fall on a bad VL fumble, and by bad, I don't mean the nickname. I should have mentioned the fact, because it would be about the only redeeming thing worth mentioning. It was not a good game for him.

      When I watch the film, I pay no attention to the time management aspect of our play. I am just watching the Xs and Os and where everybody goes. Sorry. I don't really have an opinion there.
    1. crackbaby's Avatar
      crackbaby -
      This was and old fashioned battle on the gridiron. Mano a mano and the Jackets wore out UNC in the second half. Jemea Thomas lowers the boom.

      Had to be one of the funnest games to play if you are a defensive player. Absolute downpour in the second half, cool weather and natural grass field. Need to be tougher than VT on Thurs. and then down among the hooligans in Coral Gables in two weeks.
    1. stylee's Avatar
      stylee -
      Chamberlin is an effort guy but he's just not there physically yet. I'm anxious to get Bailey back at some point.
    1. Ibeeballin's Avatar
      Ibeeballin -
      Quote Originally Posted by stylee View Post
      Chamberlin is an effort guy but he's just not there physically yet. I'm anxious to get Bailey back at some point.
      He should be staring Thursday
    1. rumcreek's Avatar
      rumcreek -
      When the Defense does not put a defender over the center, the QB sneak should be an automatic call on the goal line.
    1. Yukonwreck's Avatar
      Yukonwreck -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ibeeballin View Post
      He should be staring Thursday
      Is Chamberlain 53? He had some good plays, but he whiffed at least two that I saw. I think we need six or seven rotating in and out. Luckily we have them.
    1. Yukonwreck's Avatar
      Yukonwreck -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ga Tech Navy Nuke View Post
      Fuzzy, I saw the same thing at the end of the game where we were trying to bleed clock but snapped with 20 seconds on the clock in the end zone. What I think happened is that the referee took a very long time to start the clock and Vad didn't pay enough attention to the clock but ran the play in about the same interval as he was used to running plays.

      I liked the pace at the end of the first half. We were close enough that we could take several shots with long passes if need be and still had a time out. Plus our "hurry up" has become much more effective this year. But if we hadn't gotten the game to within a score at half, I think we would have lost......
      I suspect there is a lot going on in a 20 year old's head quarterbacking a major college team on TV, against your home state's university, with a bunch of your homies across the way, after you've had your bell rung a couple of times. He will get better.
    1. Yukonwreck's Avatar
      Yukonwreck -
      Quote Originally Posted by crackbaby View Post
      This was and old fashioned battle on the gridiron. Mano a mano and the Jackets wore out UNC in the second half. Jemea Thomas lowers the boom.

      Had to be one of the funnest games to play if you are a defensive player. Absolute downpour in the second half, cool weather and natural grass field. Need to be tougher than VT on Thurs. and then down among the hooligans in Coral Gables in two weeks.
      the announcers noted UNC was short handed. I thought they said 56 scholarships, but it must have been 66. Still short of 85.
    1. gtjacket00's Avatar
      gtjacket00 -
      Quote Originally Posted by gt2690b View Post
      Great observations I agree we with everything and especially about waller... obvious ability esp on the td but he often looks like he doesn't care enough or something
      I think he still have the Jeff Green hung over.
    1. awbuzz's Avatar
      awbuzz -
      Boomer - thank you for your write up, lover getting the viewpoint from y'all with football minds.

      Game from the stands was wet, wet, and wet, but winning the game made it worth it.

      DS had a good game and am glad he is "healthy". But, Sims needs to sleep, walk, eat, bathe, etc. with a darn football... that "almost" fumble would have been a killer if the call would have gone the other way.
    1. alagold's Avatar
      alagold -
      Didn't get to see game--
      from stats--the OFF did a workman-like job overall.not great but ok,
      Vad having a bunch of carries and a 3 yd avg looked like TW,the difference might be the OVER 50% passing and the THREAT of the passing,this was the type of game I thought we would see from Vad sometimes this yr,the DEF won the game,other yrs we would have lost this game it seems to me